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Americans shouldn't be forced to cater (and fund) actions against beliefs even if the progresssives of this country demand we do.
BTW, I saw tons of women at church the other day. Sorry to inform you but they weren't being forced into doing anything they didn't want to do.
Oh please.
I have news for you: conservatives aren't the only ones with beliefs. The Catholic church wants it both ways. They want to be free to dictate public policy for others who don't share their beliefs on abortion or birth control and then they want to retreat into the shield of religious rights when asked to stop.
Americans should not be forced to adhere to the dictates of the catholic church even if they work for it here in America.
It depends on the type of birth control. Condoms are easily available. But birth control pills and many other types must be obtained through a doctor. If it was available OTC like in Mexico, then this wouldn't be an issue.
Your rationale still doesn't help explain why Viagra IS covered, since it's only about sex, not illness.
I think this whole issue of religious employers being required/or not to provide insurance coverage for BC is ridiculous. I keep saying it: cut out the insurance middleman and go to a single-payer healthcare system! Or at least don't have health insurance tied to the employer - then the Catholic church wouldn't be able to say anything about it.
I'm not going to lie. I have no idea why Viagra is covered. I don't think it should be.
So how does the church now that a women filling a Rx for the Pill isn't doing so for health reasons and NOT contraceptive reasons? You could have a sworn virgin taking the Pill for health issues like endo or PCOS.
It's the church. If they are doing their job then the person isn't worried about their employer finding out they are worried about lying to God. In the case of an employee of a church organization then just like any other business.
The same way any insurance plan makes sure a particular drug is used for a particular reason. If you attempt to use a drug for a use that is unapproved by the insurer, you will be expected to pay for it yourself. I'm a pharmacist happens everyday.
But isn't that for a use that hasn't been approved by the FDA? Or some other off-label use? BC is widely used for real physical ailments besides preventing pregnancies. Are there insurers who refuse to pay for a drugs under similar circumstances? If so, can you give an example?
I'm seeing the issue clear as day now. You have a bunch of men in power who look at the Pill as an oral version of a condom, when in fact it's more than that. Many, many women will tell you that the Pill serve a purpose beyond contraceptive use. Sadly, it doesn't seem like many men or the Catholic Church realizes this.
If there was a drug out there w/ the same chemical composition of the Pill, but it was marketed as a drug to treat acne, PCOS, hirustism, endometriosis, irregular menstrual cycles, and other hormonal ailments, and it just so happened that one of the side effects of this drug was the inability to get pregnant while on it, would the Catholic Church have an issue w/ that drug vs. the Pill is is primarily marketed as a contraceptive?
I have the right to force you to adhere to standard health care plans.
Demanding a religious exemption on women's health care is demanding the right to have your religion put above the health care of women. Catholic church officials may be comfortable with that unfortunately but that does not make them right.
If the Catholic church wants to employ people they have to adhere to standard employee rules. They can't employ five year olds or slaves or illegal immigrants. They shouldn't be allowed to avoid paying for birth control pills or other standard health care either.
No you don't have the right. Please define "standard health care plans"? They can easily go out and find an insurer that doesn't offer BC and use them.
Also, don't call this a "women's health care" issue. Seriously, it's birth control and nothing more. As I've said before, if a woman needs a contraceptive for PCOS or any other medical condition then I'm all for it provided it's with an Rx. Providing BC solely for the purposes to prevent pregnancy, they shouldn't be forced to provide it. Go buy it yourself.
I'm seeing the issue clear as day now. You have a bunch of men in power who look at the Pill as an oral version of a condom, when in fact it's more than that. Many, many women will tell you that the Pill serve a purpose beyond contraceptive use. Sadly, it doesn't seem like many men or the Catholic Church realizes this.
If there was a drug out there w/ the same chemical composition of the Pill, but it was marketed as a drug to treat acne, PCOS, hirustism, endometriosis, irregular menstrual cycles, and other hormonal ailments, and it just so happened that one of the side effects of this drug was the inability to get pregnant while on it, would the Catholic Church have an issue w/ that drug vs. the Pill is is primarily marketed as a contraceptive?
Well of course that isn't the case. There is no prohibition by the church to using oral contraceptives, or the active ingredients in OCs for the conditions you list.
I'm seeing the issue clear as day now. You have a bunch of men in power who look at the Pill as an oral version of a condom, when in fact it's more than that. Many, many women will tell you that the Pill serve a purpose beyond contraceptive use. Sadly, it doesn't seem like many men or the Catholic Church realizes this.
If there was a drug out there w/ the same chemical composition of the Pill, but it was marketed as a drug to treat acne, PCOS, hirustism, endometriosis, irregular menstrual cycles, and other hormonal ailments, and it just so happened that one of the side effects of this drug was the inability to get pregnant while on it, would the Catholic Church have an issue w/ that drug vs. the Pill is is primarily marketed as a contraceptive?
Really great question. If a person takes Accutane for acne, they have to use two forms of birth control because the risk of birth defects is so great while using it. Do Catholic church plans currently cover Accutane?
Also, even in a Catholic hospital a woman can have her tubes tied if a doctor says it's medically necessary. Aren't prescriptions for BC, by virtue of the fact that they are prescribed by a doctor, medically necessary?
The same way any insurance plan makes sure a particular drug is used for a particular reason. If you attempt to use a drug for a use that is unapproved by the insurer, you will be expected to pay for it yourself. I'm a pharmacist happens everyday.
So why this idea from the Catholic Church that women shouldn't take the Pill at all and these wild attacks and accusations that women only want to take the Pill to have sex? You already have people calling women on the Pill "whores" and "sluts". Wasn't that the reason Sandra Fluke was taking the Pill, not so she could have wild sex, but as treatment for an ailment?
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