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Old 02-15-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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Sounds like an oxymoron. That's about as logical and accurate as saying that he's a white guy with a black dad.
If you can find any actual white people who have a biological parent who is black, more power to you...
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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If you can find any actual white people who have a biological parent who is black, more power to you...
Obama doesn't qualify??
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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Obama doesn't qualify??
How would he qualify as a white man? Man is as black as I am.
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:29 PM
 
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How would he qualify as a white man? Man is as black as I am.
Sure, if one of your parents were white.

Besides, how does he qualify as a black man anymore than he qualifies as a white man?
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:31 PM
 
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Truthfully speaking. I feel that no matter who you are. You should embrace yourself. Love yourself, no matter what race, color or relgion you are.

If your by-racial embrace it, enjoy the beauty of two worlds, No matter what race or nationlity you are, embrace it.

How come here in 2012 we are still stuck on racial issues of any kind,.
Because until all Black people are treated (in every aspect of society) the same as a White person, race will always be an issue.
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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Because until all Black people are treated (in every aspect of society) the same as a White person, race will always be an issue.
Again .. Drivel with non sources!
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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Sure, if one of your parents were white.

Besides, how does he qualify as a black man anymore than he qualifies as a white man?
As I have said many times, if he weren't President of the United States, wouldn't nobody here be trying to claim him as a white man. Would he have been able to vote in South Africa or Mississippi in, say, 1950? I think you'll find your answer there.
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:43 PM
 
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As I have said many times, if he weren't President of the United States, wouldn't nobody here be trying to claim him as a white man. Would he have been able to vote in South Africa or Mississippi in, say, 1950? I think you'll find your answer there.
But this isn't Mississippi, or South Africa circa 1950. And he is the POTUS. So I guess the question remains...how is he anymore qualified to be black than he is white?
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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I think some are conflating racial makeup with sociocultural identity. Obama may be racially mixed, but he is socioculturally black. Increasingly, though, people of mixed racial heritage are beginning to assert their own brand of sociocultural identity.

As for the question posed in the OP, whether race or gender takes precedence depends on the type of company the black woman finds herself in. Generally speaking, in the company of whites, race almost always trumps gender, i.e., a black woman is "black first". When dealing with other blacks, however, her gender identity is usually the first line of defense.
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Old 02-15-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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I'm a black woman and I'm curious if most black women tend to identify more so with their race, than gender. For me, it's really a mixture of both. I can't say that I identify with being black more so than being a woman. However, I do know (from speaking to black female relatives & friends) that some actually see race as more salient than gender.

I recall that most black female democrats supported President Obama over Hillary. When asked why, some stated that they identified more with Obama.

Share your thoughts...
I'm a black woman and I identify more with being West African than as a female. That is to say I feel little camaraderie with non-black women but I feel kinship with West African men.
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