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Old 02-17-2012, 01:32 AM
 
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welcome to obamaville. How's that hope and change working for you?
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Old 02-17-2012, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Purgatory
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None of use take pleasure in watching people suffer. Spewing this "nasty vomit" is not really worthy of my response. But I will respond because I think it's important to know that what you deem to be hatred for the poor or some other hyperbolic falsity, is really (for me) more about life decisions and personal responsibility. Millions of American's make bad decisions about nearly everything.......like buying a new car when the payments are too high....buying a house with an adjustable rate mortgage.....taking expensive vacations on a credit card.....having children when they can barely afford the other children they have, etc. Not to mention the millions of other smaller financial decisions that wreck bank accounts.

These are ALL horrendous life decisions that ultimately lead to unpleasant outcomes. I have sympathy for people who fall on hard times. I have very little sympathy for people who fall on hard times after a lifetime of bad decisions.

I expect you as a human to know the difference.
You seem to be able to speak for every poor person in America, to know they all made horrendous decisions that put them where they are today. Such awesome powers you possess to be able to figure out the complexities of modern day poverty in just 3 short paragraphs. I mean, never mind all the other and more likely causes of poverty such as mental illness, abusive parents or spouses, exposure to crime and violence, bad schools, social exclusion, drug and alcohol abuse, learning difficulties, job loss....the list is endless, but you turn the other cheek as do many Americans and blame the victims.

As a human being, I'd expect more of you.
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Old 02-17-2012, 04:40 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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You seem to be able to speak for every poor person in America, to know they all made horrendous decisions that put them where they are today. Such awesome powers you possess to be able to figure out the complexities of modern day poverty in just 3 short paragraphs. I mean, never mind all the other and more likely causes of poverty such as mental illness, abusive parents or spouses, exposure to crime and violence, bad schools, social exclusion, drug and alcohol abuse, learning difficulties, job loss....the list is endless, but you turn the other cheek as do many Americans and blame the victims.

As a human being, I'd expect more of you.
Dont forget being fleeced by every business out there.
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Old 02-17-2012, 05:02 AM
 
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What is surprising is that none on the so called conservative side seem to realise that having kids in tents through the winter is just not on.

The USA gets a load of containers full of goods for Wall Mart etc which can be converted into dry, warm homes for the homeless.
It is not rocket science, nor is putting a septic tank system in.


But, one gets a feeling that too many so called Christians believe the unemployed need to be punished for being laid off, and if children are in the mix in the tent, well that is just too bad

Do conservatives read any Dickens ? if not might I suggest they start with A tale of two cities.
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Old 02-17-2012, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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I'm not buying all this talk about people starving because of two words.......FOOD STAMPS!
Food stamps or not...If you are not eating good food - and as much as you need...You slowly get more stupid - Third world countries are in a rut because most of the population is protein starved...and the brain need protein - the poor will never get strong and smart eating grease and flour..
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Why didn't the "journalist" ask the father why he didn't qualify for unemployment when he got laid off? What kind of person are you where you think it's fine to raise a family on a job that offers no benefits, no security, and most likely no responsibility to pay taxes. Or what kind of mother are you to allow this?

Why didn't she ask the couple in the culvert: Who the hell goes to Las Vegas for work? Or do you realize that if the two of you worked 40 hours per week doing anything that you could afford a one bedroom apt in Vegas or maybe even that you should probably move to where the work actually is.

This is either some of the worst journalism ever produced or it is simply propaganda.

I especially love the part where a six year old little girl says that her mother ate a rat and the reporter asks follow-ups. Hey idiot, It's a six year old!

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Old 02-17-2012, 06:35 AM
 
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Why dont they just start a business or something? Cant they just get rich?
These tents must be the "safety net" that Romney's talking about...
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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What is surprising is that none on the so called conservative side seem to realise that having kids in tents through the winter is just not on.
Sorry I guess we conservatives didn't see kids in tents in this Moore-esque hit piece on Republicans.

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The USA gets a load of containers full of goods for Wall Mart etc which can be converted into dry, warm homes for the homeless.
It is not rocket science, nor is putting a septic tank system in.
Yep, just what I figured it's WalMart's fault.

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But, one gets a feeling that too many so called Christians believe the unemployed need to be punished for being laid off, and if children are in the mix in the tent, well that is just too bad
Why don't you get the feeling that having children when you can't afford to feed the ones you have already is a good way to go through life. You didn't miss that part did you?

The little blonde boy (who doesn't look like he's missing any meals by the way) said that his mother is pregnant. Is that what you consider misfortune?
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:25 AM
 
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Yea, it's a trip, aint it?

I've been on a lot of message boards and forums in my day, but i've never been on one with as many posters that are drunk on their good fortune as i have on C-D. Either they're good liars, or they're extremely sheltered from the realities of life.

Not trying to pick on the rightwingers, but one even started a thread where he was gushing about how he doesn't care about the poor. Couldn't believe it. And you have people on this thread saying that there is no possible way they could end up destitute because they're SOOOOOOO prepared. As if there have never been any prepared people that ended up on their asses anyway.

Astounding.
When everything is paid for, when there's money in the bank, when there's a steady revenue/income stream, when there are substantial insurance policies in place to protect assets, there's much less financial risk. Couple that with a lifetime of good decision-making and I am confident that my family won't find itself living in a tent or a drain.

Why is it hard to accept that some people have lived conservatively and financially responsible lives?

Do you find something wrong with this? Does it bother you that some people are better off through their own hard work and forward-thinking ability? Is this hatred for the successful why class warfare is a valuable talking point in the liberal establishment?

What gives?
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:34 AM
 
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You seem to be able to speak for every poor person in America, to know they all made horrendous decisions that put them where they are today. Such awesome powers you possess to be able to figure out the complexities of modern day poverty in just 3 short paragraphs. I mean, never mind all the other and more likely causes of poverty such as mental illness, abusive parents or spouses, exposure to crime and violence, bad schools, social exclusion, drug and alcohol abuse, learning difficulties, job loss....the list is endless, but you turn the other cheek as do many Americans and blame the victims.

As a human being, I'd expect more of you.
What part of the "personal responsibility" theme of my post did you not understand? Nearly everything you mentioned could be avoided in some way, shape, or form.

I get it. You hate conservatives and you hate those that are better off. But that doesn't make you superior for harboring populists views. Rather it makes you a sympathizer of those who could have led more fulfilling lives if they had made good decisions throughout their lives.

Bad luck and bad decisions are entirely different things. You don't seem to be able to differentiate between the two. Why is that?
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