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Old 02-16-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Earth
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The part that gets me--some of these same people were sure that the government was going to kill grandma by setting up a process where doctors had a conversation with elderly patients about their end of life wishes. Now they think it's ok to MANDATE an invasive, unnecessary medical procedure just because they want it done? Are they serious? Really?
I'm sorry, but this invasion is rape.
Not directed at you, mb, but I know how that feels.
My government will never legally and physically rape me.
I would die first.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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The hypocrisy of so called "small government conservatives" makes me sick.
No hypocrisy. Conservatives are for smaller government. We are not for NO government and we realize that there are some legitimate functions of government. One of those functions is to protect life. Whether it is protecting a convenience store owner from a would-be murderer or protecting an unborn baby for a would-be infantacidal abortionist it is still protecting life.

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Public opinion has not turned against them. In the case of the Virginia state government, they got just about an equal amount of Dems and Repubs in the state government. They got ONE more republican (finally) and that one is used for the tie breaking vote. They hardly have the majority behind them. They have that one vote needed to ram stuff through. They are using it. The backlash against them on the next election will not be pretty. It's a shame they overreach.
I was referring to national polling on the issue.
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I'm sorry, but this invasion is rape.
Not directed at you, mb, but I know how that feels.
My government will never legally and physically rape me.
I would die first.
So an ultrasound is rape but sticking a vacuum cleaner inside you to snuff out a life is not? Please.
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I was referring to national polling on the issue.
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This is a much more recent survey, also from Gallup:



Thus, only 20% of Americans think that abortion should not be legal. 77% believe it should be legal at least under some circumstances.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Earth
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So an ultrasound is rape but sticking a vacuum cleaner inside you to snuff out a life is not? Please.
Let's have someone stick something up you that you don't want to have stuck up yourself.
Once you're raped, you can come back and talk to me.
Until then, you have nothing to say.

What part of against my will do you not understand?
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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77% believe it should be legal at least under some circumstances.
Yes, and that circumstance would be only if it was a choice between saving the child or the mother.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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And if your parents had felt like you?
To bad they didn't...
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: NC
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So did marriage.
Well if you would like to change the definition of murder you are more then welcome to lobby for it.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Where do you see this?



Government intruded in the abortion issue in the first place, when the court found a "right" to kill your in utero baby.

The pro-abortion monsters at Planned Parenthood are terrified women will change their mind and keep/adopt instead of kill their baby.

See, uneducated women have been told for years and years that what they are ripping to shreds is not really a baby, not really human...just a clump of cells.

An ultrasound will shoot that to all heck.

Besides, they can choose to not have the ultrasound by going to another state that doesn't require it.
Someone clearly missed the point of the OP.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:48 PM
 
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Someone clearly missed the point of the OP.
They always do.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Don't be deliberately obtuse. If there wasn't any purpose to the ultrasound, then anti-life people wouldn't fight against it so hard. If they announced you had to have an extra ultrasound from now on before having an appendectomy would there be a discussion about it here? Of course not. You liberals see it as a threat to abortion on demand or you wouldn't bother commenting on it. So don't pretend you're completely mystified about the whole thing.

And what kind of ultrasound would one have before an appendectomy?
I'm betting it wouldn't be transvaginal or transrectal.

Talk about being obtuse.
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