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B) Showing a woman, who is already in stress from the situation, all this nonsense and making her go through an unnecessary procedure is effectively state sponsored punishment for wanting to undergo legal procedure.
I agree . It's simply the only thing right wing nuts can do in their losing battle with societal change is all.
That's news to me, because I'm in the medical field and up until a certain point it looks like something ELSE'S offspring. You know, with big, bulging eyes, a tail, and hands and feet that are flipperlike. If it wasn't inside a human, you wouldn't know it was a human baby.
And have they followed up on these kids that were "saved" to see how they are doing today. Are they still alive, happy, abused, neglected or what. Do the mothers resent them because they felt guilted into keeping them. I mean this is the real story isn't it.
It's both. Abortion is murder and should be illegal. Until then, we must rely on calmly persuasiding hormonally-charged women in great emotional distress with reason.
You people, and others who support this law, are not trying to reason with women you are looking to make things as painful and unpleasant for them as possible.
And it's none of your business who decides to have an abortion.
It's both. Abortion is murder and should be illegal. Until then, we must rely on calmly persuasiding hormonally-charged women in great emotional distress with reason.
You obviously know nothing about persuasion. Forced sonograms and monitoring of fetal heartbeat is not an appeal based on reason (logos); it's an appeal based on emotion (pathos). Basic Aristotle. Likewise if you knew anything about reason, you would not be ignoring that facts of the situation: abortion is legal and is not murder. So get control of yourself and your emotions, and stop trying to force your faith beliefs on others. Although I know that the emotions that come with not being able to control women, their bodies, and the law is obviously too much for you to handle at times, you really need to figure out how to view the world rationally rather than emotionally.
Forced sonograms and monitoring of fetal heartbeat is not an appeal based on reason (logos); it's an appeal based on emotion (pathos). Basic Aristotle. Likewise if you knew anything about reason, you would not be ignoring that facts of the situation: abortion is legal and is not murder.
Seems to me that sonograms and monitoring of fetal heartbeats provide objective, rational evidence that the fetus is more than just a blob of tissue - a human being. That's important because many women at risk for abortion try to convince themselves that it's not really a baby. Out of sight, out of mind.
Yes, there is also an emotional component. God gave women a maternal instinct to protect their babies, and this technology can help awaken that instinct, which has probably been suppressed out of fear.
Murder has a definition apart from the law. It used to be legal to kill runaway slaves. That was still murder.
Seems to me that sonograms and monitoring of fetal heartbeats is objective, rational evidence that the fetus is more than just a blob of tissue - a human being. That's important because many women at risk for abortion try to convince themselves that it's not really a baby. Out of sight, out of mind.
If it was objective science (episteme), the data would be demonstrable and there would be no reason to debate "that which cannot be otherwise" (Aristotle, NE). Obviously, this is not the case. You somehow see and hear a baby. Others see and hear a fetus.
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Yes, there is also an emotional component. God gave women a maternal instinct to protect their babies, and this technology can help awaken that instinct.
Oh really? Can you provide the science for this conclusion? I wasn't aware that scientists had undertaken a study of how to "awaken" maternal instinct given by God.
Pure propaganda.
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Murder has a definition apart from the law. It used to be legal to kill runaway slaves. That was still murder.
Try to stay on topic. We are talking about legal means by which women have a right to control their bodies and reproduction in the 21st century.
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. It's simply the only thing right wing nuts can do in their losing battle with societal change is all.
