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This has nothing to do with affirmative action. What are you people not getting. The City had a mandate in place outlining the requirments. The City then decided they were going to include an addendum mid way to those requirements. Thats unfair. Had they stated in their requirements that the person with the HIGHEST score is the most qualified, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.
I am sure that in the future, the fire department will be stating just that in their highering qualifications.
But then blacks will probably complain to the courts again that they are being discriminated against.
What do propose to do with these people that are not qualified for our jobs that we have available. There are no jobs left for them. They can go screw themselves?
There are crops that are currently being picked by illegals they can start there.
I suggest they not change the criteria midway through the process if they don't want to get criticism. It should have 89+ from the beginning.
Why can't it be flexible?
You can never be sure of how applicants will perform on a test. That is why you need to have criteria such as "65 and above will be considered". 89% is a high mark to make. I am sure that the administrators of this test didn't foresee the high scores that the non-black fire fighters would achieve.
This is the way it is in all walks of life. I am currently applying for entry level jobs right now out of college. The requirements for highering consideration for the positions I am going for right now all pretty much state that just a college degree and less than 2 years of relevent experience are required. I have met these qualifications, but their are many others who are applying for the same job that exceed their qualifications, which is why I am still not employed. The applicants who exceed the requirements the most are going to get a job first. Should I run to court and scream discrimination over this?
So once again an obviously illiterate group of white people misread or is unable to comprehend the article they attempted to read, and ignorantly goes off on an tangent that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.
I guess city-data can add one more to the "clueless" category.
Can any rational person please point me to the affirmative action issue that was quoted in the article???..anyone??
How is this not affirmative action? A court mandated that the highering standards be lowered to meet a racial quota. Its no different than what universities do to bring in higher numbers of minorities.
This has nothing to do with affirmative action. What are you people not getting. The City had a mandate in place outlining the requirments. The City then decided they were going to include an addendum mid way to those requirements. Thats unfair. Had they stated in their requirements that the person with the HIGHEST score is the most qualified, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.
So what about the white and Hispanic test takers who got caught on the other side of the addedum. How did this become a racial discrimination case? Only Black firefighters who scored above 66 did not get hired?
How is this not affirmative action? A court mandated that the highering standards be lowered to meet a racial quota. Its no different than what universities do to bring in higher numbers of minorities.
Standards werent lowered. They said 65 makes you qualified, and then made up the 89 number. They should've said 89 only from the beginning.
So what about the white and Hispanic test takers who got caught on the other side of the addedum. How did this become a racial discrimination case? Only Black firefighters who scored above 66 did not get hired?
Became racial because it had a disparate outcome against blacks.
Blacks were qualified and didn't get hired.
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