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Old 02-17-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Sooooo....

If the income tax were abolished would you protest?
Insufficient information. Unless you are proposing absolutely NO other changes to any other taxes, spending and so on and so forth?
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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The producers are in the middle classes. We create laws that enable the uber-wealthy to collect income doing nothing, and then we have a huge social safety net. Who isn't doing anything(Romney and a mother of 8 in the ghetto). What needs to be carefully monitored are laws(by fiat) that establish property rights and create access charge opportunities( software and frivolous patents, real estate, monopolies etc). Poperty rights need to be closely tied to production. Income taxes are basically aimed at the middle classes and specifically on labor. It is perhaps the worst of all taxes, and given its violation of privacy, it should be abolished.


....but then again its a pen ready project. Once again the so called conservatives are blind, miserable fools who fail to realize their utter hypocrisy that da guberment has created an artificial market for accountants and tax lawyers. If you make money in the tax industry, you are a welfare queen on the dole, a socialist leach.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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I would not protest eliminating all deductions and treating all types of income the same. We're going to get taxed; it's a necessary thing. I don't care what type of tax it is, as long as all of us pays it... rich and poor.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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Well that would greatly depend on what it was replaced with, now wouldn't it?

Dumb question "Do you like income tax?" Who in their right mind would say yes?

Now, asking "Do you like this program, and that program, and do you think providing this government service at the current levels?" Those are much more relevant questions. And, if you tell the person they are paid for by income tax, well, it might change someones mind.

See how these whole "yes or no" questions really mislead people?

I personally favor 1 federal flat tax. Any income over 40,000 dollars gets taxed at the exact same tax rate, 0 corporate taxes.

If the government spends more money, fine, but tell the American people how much you plan on raising their taxes to do it.
That's exactly what I thought when I read the original thread post.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Powers not granted to the Feds are reserved by the states. So no federal tax, but the states would get ya. Some worse than others.
Yep, and the federal government, with no tax income, would shift the provision of services to the states. There goes your state income tax.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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Yep, and the federal government, with no tax income, would shift the provision of services to the states. There goes your state income tax.

Works for me. Then one can choose to either live in a nanny state with high state income taxes or a productive state with limited income taxes , if any at all.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I favor a return to the republican form of government.
However, one must caution that once 41% withdraw consent from the democratic socialist form (in power since 1933), that it will reduce tax revenues by 95% or more.
That will have a negative effect on the remaining recipient class, who are wholly dependent upon governments for their salaries, pensions, and entitlements.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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The welfare queens of the tax industry.

Average Tax Attorney II Salary Information plus Job, Career Education & Unemployment Help
The median expected salary for a typical Tax Attorney II in the United States is $126,397.


I suppose these people are part of the overtaxed wealthy?

Bet that costs more than welfare.


Tax Accountant Salary | Indeed.com

More government welfare pen ready jobs that put the New Deal to shame. I call it the Raw Deal.


Here is someone else who sees the light or our tax loophole mining industry.

Atheist Ethicist: The Flat Tax and the Loophole Manufacturing Industry


Land value taxes, luxury excise taxes and natural monopoly taxes is all you need.

And it will have no impact on goods and services. It taxes sleep.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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Works for me. Then one can choose to either live in a nanny state with high state income taxes or a productive state with limited income taxes , if any at all.
Here is where we agree. State governments face competition. The Federal does not.
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Old 02-17-2012, 10:12 AM
 
Location: North America
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Only an idiot would be in favor of abolishing the federal income tax, and hiding Ron Paul spam in your original post does nothing to enhance your credibility.
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Only an idiot would think that America was founded in 1913.
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