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Old 02-17-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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Read this and tell me if we have free speech rights in America when rich elites are easily able to shut down debate by threats and intimidation.

Billionaire Romney donor uses threats to silence critics - Salon.com

And by the way, if we have any examples right wing commentary being suppressed by threats of lawsuits I'd welcome you posting that here. This goes beyond right v left.

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Old 02-17-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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Read this and tell me if we have free speech rights in America when rich elites are easily able to shut down debate by threats and intimidation.

Billionaire Romney donor uses threats to silence critics - Salon.com
Maybe we can arrange a fight to the death between him and this Al Gore fundraiser?

Fred Phelps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 02-17-2012, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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If you thiink the Republicans have some looney candidates, the people backing them are really scary
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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If you thiink the Republicans have some looney candidates, the people backing them are really scary
Oh, you mean like the Santorum supporter who says that a Bayer aspirin between a woman's knees is suitable birth control?
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:18 PM
 
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Maybe we can arrange a fight to the death between him and this Al Gore fundraiser?

Fred Phelps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Over two decades ago Phelps claimed to have hosted a Gore fundraiser because Gore was supporting anti-gay legislation at the time. Your link doesn't even make the claim Gore was aware of this.

In comparison, Romney is fully aware this bully is currently on his team.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Oh, you mean like the Santorum supporter who says that a Bayer aspirin between a woman's knees is suitable birth control?
Can you suggest a much surer method of birth control?
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Can you suggest a much surer method of birth control?
Uh.....yes. Like all of them.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:47 PM
 
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Read this and tell me if we have free speech rights in America when rich elites are easily able to shut down debate by threats and intimidation.

Billionaire Romney donor uses threats to silence critics - Salon.com

And by the way, if we have any examples right wing commentary being suppressed by threats of lawsuits I'd welcome you posting that here. This goes beyond right v left.
I've got a problem with this. I've also got a problem with the abusive treatment Ron Paul and McCain have been meted out by GOP and constituents alike. Evil is evil is evil. What calls itself conservative is like Tonya Harding with too much money in her pocket.
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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Over two decades ago Phelps claimed to have hosted a Gore fundraiser because Gore was supporting anti-gay legislation at the time. Your link doesn't even make the claim Gore was aware of this.

In comparison, Romney is fully aware this bully is currently on his team.
Even still, can I disagree with some of the positions Gore has and agree with others on pure merits of argument? That can't happen if folks are going to take it upon themselves to shut down debates/ monkey with facts as a 'right'.

The defense of free speech shouldn't include the right for someone to lie. Particularly when they're trusted in positions of authority to deliver information in mass communication systems or manage public records. The truth and nothing but the truth only applies by law to you and me, not all others in the courtroom? Or in governance? Or in commerce?
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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According to that article which, by the way, is loaded with words and phrases which reveals Solon's bias and which would make it an editorial in any other paper, it seems the only crime being committed is by the newspapers and other outlets unwilling to stand behind what they've printed.

"Mother Jones,""Forbes," and various blogsites folded under initial pressure and the Idaho Falls "Post Register" even sold him space to offer a rebuttal, then complained about his doing so!

Who's at fault here? VanderSloot or those who print or publish things they're unwilling to defend? I'd say if you can't defend what you publish, you shouldn't publish it.

More yellow journalism, this time from the left.
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