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Old 02-17-2012, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Everyone already gets that "Anglo-Saxon pride" is just another dog whistle for white power and ethnocentrism.
"Call them racists" is really getting boring. Even when you spice it up with the realtively recent, and admittedly clever 'dog whistle' meme. Can't you come up with some new schtick?

Isn't it off-topic anyway? I don't see where anyone mentioned 'Anglo-Saxon pride.'
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Old 02-17-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Is America a blank cultural slate? Or do we have an historically mainstream culture that is worthy of respect and affirmation?

This is a book review of "America's British Culture" by Russell Kirk:

"He argues that America still has an identifiable and redeemable culture, and that this culture is British in form and substance ... 'America’s British Culture' documents for the non-scholar the overwhelming influence of English literature, law, government, religion, mores, customs, and folkways on American life, from its colonial beginnings to the present generation."

For all of its flaws - and I'm sure some of the vandals on this site will soon be pointing them out - Anglo-American culture is remarkable for its generosity and ability to assimilate that which is good and enduring in other cultures. But this is only true insofar as the center holds firm. Without that healthy core, it all falls apart, and that's what seems to be happening today.
If you like Britain so much why don't you live there
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Purgatory
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I'm British. I would say that culturally, the UK and USA are very different as of now, culturally, politically and socially. I have said it numerous times, but I think that Britain has far more in common with her north-west European neighbours, even if many British people will deny this until they are blue in the face.

The US and the UK have grown further and further apart as genetically, the US has become less and less British since it won independence.

I'll break down the differences for you though:

- We like different sports
- Our drinking culture is mirrored only in NW Europe and Australia.
- We have a constitutional monarchy
- We generally don't like firearms
- We do not believe the right to free speech includes inciting hatred
- Our comedy, television and film is totally different (self-depreciating and drier)
- We do not like to make eye contact
- Customer service in the UK doesn't involve acting like the customer's best friend
- We have taken in many immigrants from east Asia, eastern Europe. The US has taken in many Latin American immigrants.
- We are nowhere near as car-centric
- Poverty in the UK isn't as racial.
- We generally don't like knocking stuff down and building too many skyscrapers.
- We believe that healthcare is a right.
- We have slashed our military over the past few decades.
- Our attitude towards government and taxation is somewhat different.

I'm sure I can think of more!
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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Only to those inclined to hear dog whistles. To the rest of us, it's no more offensive than, say, "viva la raza."
Anglo-Saxon.....just a part of the genetic make up of the native British, although no studies have confirmed it either way.
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:44 PM
 
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Just a thought, while Byron, Tennyson, Joyce, may have receded from the classroom replaced by Melville, Twain, Hemingway, Steinbeck, Stowe, Hughes, Baldwin, Rand, and many other American authors, Huxley, Tolkien, Orwell, and Wells still are prominent in today's classroom and popular culture (too bad that reactionaries have either not read or don't remember reading Dickens) I don't know what seems to have white folks knickers all in a bunch. Even in other art forms, figures like Copeland, Ellington, Eddie Palmeri have made American culture even more substantial than 19th century Europe and has in fact played as big a role in European culture than the other way around. If you can't see that then you are lost in a cloud of racial and cultural irrationality.
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:48 PM
 
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I'm British. I would say that culturally, the UK and USA are very different as of now, culturally, politically and socially. I have said it numerous times, but I think that Britain has far more in common with her north-west European neighbours, even if many British people will deny this until they are blue in the face.

The US and the UK have grown further and further apart as genetically, the US has become less and less British since it won independence.

I'll break down the differences for you though:

- We like different sports
- Our drinking culture is mirrored only in NW Europe and Australia.
- We have a constitutional monarchy
- We generally don't like firearms
- We do not believe the right to free speech includes inciting hatred
- Our comedy, television and film is totally different (self-depreciating and drier)
- We do not like to make eye contact
- Customer service in the UK doesn't involve acting like the customer's best friend
- We have taken in many immigrants from east Asia, eastern Europe. The US has taken in many Latin American immigrants.
- We are nowhere near as car-centric
- Poverty in the UK isn't as racial.
- We generally don't like knocking stuff down and building too many skyscrapers.
- We believe that healthcare is a right.
- We have slashed our military over the past few decades.
- Our attitude towards government and taxation is somewhat different.

I'm sure I can think of more!
Right wingers in the US always b! tch about Europe and how it's all effed up and Socialist, and yet they talk about European culture being the core of America.

Which one is it right wingers, either you love Europe or hate it, can't have it both ways.
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Old 02-17-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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Which one is it right wingers, either you love Europe or hate it, can't have it both ways.
It's all part and parcel of the right wing psychosis, so don't expect them to understand.
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:01 PM
 
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Right wingers in the US always b! tch about Europe and how it's all effed up and Socialist, and yet they talk about European culture being the core of America.

Which one is it right wingers, either you love Europe or hate it, can't have it both ways.
Under most circumstances, Britain gets bashed a lot for either its Muslim population or NHS or perceived lack of free speech. In terms of your ancestry, I thought German was the most common ancestral group?
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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I thought German was the most common ancestral group?
Not since WWII
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Old 02-17-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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Shared law and culture hardly, your supreme court is a political body which appointed a bloke president because he was GOP and the majority on the court had been appointed by a GOP president.

Culture, nope share little of that, for example the words LBW law would mean nothing to 99.99999% of Americans but is well understood in the Commonwealth, if you share so much why no application to join the Commonwealth ?
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