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One thing that westboro clan has done that's good is to bring a lot of people together against them. People that typically can't stand each other.
Even here lol
They hold signs, they're not burning the American flag and throwing rocks through business's. Have you seen them do anything compared to Oakland, CA?? There not taking up public parks for days on end.
I don't agree with Westbro , but I don't defend people who don't know how to demonstrate peacefully and go home either.
It's not possible for Occupiers or 99% to throw rocks or destroy property when it was declared from day one to be a peaceful movement. So... anyone claiming themselves to be an occupier or a 99% member, the individuals collectively in the group beg to differ because the moment they went down that road it's another group entirely. Surely as anyone claiming incest is acceptable in Christianity. I beg to differ. Call themselves the incest religion, but it is NOT Christianity.
Care to explain why I ought to be held accountable for what anarchists claiming themselves to be occupiers & 99% do? I'm not now nor have I ever been an anarchist and neither were the overwhelming majority of the people I've come in direct contact with (from all over the country) save for some Ron Paul supporters. Although calling themselves anarchists, they never did behave violently or destructive.
Any reason they're not accountable for themselves as individuals when nothing in group discussions promoted or endorsed their individual behavior?
Should we prosecute all Ron Paul supporters for whatever ugly occurred in Oakland?
Or should we prosecute all of Christendom for what Mark David Chapman did?
When militia groups came to stir up violence and were asked to leave, should we abolish all militia?
When addicts showed up and meant to make some cash selling drugs and were asked to leave, should that mean we abolish the shopping mall and the bus stations where they were previously peddling drugs?
Homeless people and their personal incompatibility with civilization were a pre-existing condition far beyond the hands of Occupiers. Is there some reason the things they got arrested for 5 yrs ago and the things they got arrested for this year ought to be "owned" by Occupy movement?
So, heckling, harrassing and yelling ugly hatefulness at family and friends of soliders who lost their lives is peaceful?
Only when the citizens allow them to do their trick. Here in Kansas they don't get close to the churches and cemeteries and if the police can't handle it our local cowboys and some of the heavier ladies see to it that they stay away. The last time I saw them come to funeral here the motorcycle riders of the group established to control them peacefully revved up their machines every time they tried to talk on their loudspeaers. Freedom of expression extends to both groups. One fool woman called this young very large local a name and when she got up after the fist hit her head she shut up for good. We rural people can take care of those people with just a bit of help from the riders. Phelps and group won't come back unless they bring the National Guard with them.
One thing that westboro clan has done that's good is to bring a lot of people together against them. People that typically can't stand each other.
Even here lol
True! But I mean to tell you, it warms my heart to see the young generation in WV speak up and picket them when they came to town here in Charleston. Baptists, Jews, Catholics, Presbyterians, Pagans, atheists all. They broke away from the tradition of being overly humble, stood up for themselves and didn't allow weasels the right to change the true character/ values of their town/ state/ country. Very proud of them. Very proud.
Sometimes when folks are too polite their real meaning doesn't register very clearly. There are worse things to be guilty of, but... too humble isn't healthy. Seems to attract bullies.
It's not possible for Occupiers or 99% to throw rocks or destroy property when it was declared from day one to be a peaceful movement. So... anyone claiming themselves to be an occupier or a 99% member, the individuals collectively in the group beg to differ because the moment they went down that road it's another group entirely. Surely as anyone claiming incest is acceptable in Christianity. I beg to differ. Call themselves the incest religion, but it is NOT Christianity.
Care to explain why I ought to be held accountable for what anarchists claiming themselves to be occupiers & 99% do? I'm not now nor have I ever been an anarchist and neither were the overwhelming majority of the people I've come in direct contact with (from all over the country) save for some Ron Paul supporters. Although calling themselves anarchists, they never did behave violently or destructive.
Any reason they're not accountable for themselves as individuals when nothing in group discussions promoted or endorsed their individual behavior?
Should we prosecute all Ron Paul supporters for whatever ugly occurred in Oakland?
Or should we prosecute all of Christendom for what Mark David Chapman did?
When militia groups came to stir up violence and were asked to leave, should we abolish all militia?
When addicts showed up and meant to make some cash selling drugs and were asked to leave, should that mean we abolish the shopping mall and the bus stations where they were previously peddling drugs?
Homeless people and their personal incompatibility with civilization were a pre-existing condition far beyond the hands of Occupiers. Is there some reason the things they got arrested for 5 yrs ago and the things they got arrested for this year ought to be "owned" by Occupy movement?
I said, these people have not rioted in the streets and destoryed property, big difference. Plus they go home each day.
Here in Kansas they don't get close to the churches and cemeteries and if the police can't handle it our local cowboys and some of the heavier ladies see to it that they stay away.
Only when the citizens allow them to do their trick. Here in Kansas they don't get close to the churches and cemeteries and if the police can't handle it our local cowboys and some of the heavier ladies see to it that they stay away. The last time I saw them come to funeral here the motorcycle riders of the group established to control them peacefully revved up their machines every time they tried to talk on their loudspeaers. Freedom of expression extends to both groups. One fool woman called this young very large local a name and when she got up after the fist hit her head she shut up for good. We rural people can take care of those people with just a bit of help from the riders. Phelps and group won't come back unless they bring the National Guard with them.
Exactly, that's what these people don't get. Reasonable people know how to stomp out the noise!!
Rev your engines, Loud pipes save lives!!
Biker's take care of business
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