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Obama appears to be right on the same page with Sen. Rick Santorum. And btw, in this video, he seems to have 'forgotten' about his previous support for a handgun ban. Barack Obama on Gun Control
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Originally Posted by ontheissues
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban
Funny thing about machine guns, short barreled rifles, and short barreled shotguns for those folks who don't know about it- the legal purchase of those items is possible but far more difficult than purchasing a normal handgun or rifle or shotgun from a dealer.
-they are registered with ATF
-in-depth background check is performed
-purchase/transfer requires signature of your local police chief or county sheriff
-fingerprints and photos are required
-ATF approval required
-current waiting period for approval is right around 120 days.
any new laws passed regarding machine guns, suppressors, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, "any other weapon" (AOW), or "destructive device" (such as a cannon) wouldn't really accomplish anything that hasn't already been done by the federal government. Interestingly enough, people seem to thing a lot of crimes are committed with these firearms... they aren't. Probably somehow related to media depictions of such items.
Anyways, that's OT. It's one thing to prohibit that which is already basically prohibited (redundant), it's another to deny someone the right to own a basic firearm such as a rifle, shotgun, or handgun. Shouldn't be allowed except in the case of felons and the mentally/psychologically deficient.
Funny thing about machine guns, short barreled rifles, and short barreled shotguns for those folks who don't know about it- the legal purchase of those items is possible but far more difficult than purchasing a normal handgun or rifle or shotgun from a dealer.
-they are registered with ATF
-in-depth background check is performed
-purchase/transfer requires signature of your local police chief or county sheriff
-fingerprints and photos are required
-ATF approval required
-current waiting period for approval is right around 120 days.
any new laws passed regarding machine guns, suppressors, short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, "any other weapon" (AOW), or "destructive device" (such as a cannon) wouldn't really accomplish anything that hasn't already been done by the federal government. Interestingly enough, people seem to thing a lot of crimes are committed with these firearms... they aren't. Probably somehow related to media depictions of such items.
Anyways, that's OT. It's one thing to prohibit that which is already basically prohibited (redundant), it's another to deny someone the right to own a basic firearm such as a rifle, shotgun, or handgun. Shouldn't be allowed except in the case of felons and the mentally/psychologically deficient.
True, but the main point is that Pres. Obama supported states and local governments being able to restrict what he said was an individual, constitutional right.
True, but the main point is that Pres. Obama supported states and local governments being able to restrict what he said was an individual, constitutional right.
I guess that means 10th amendment advocates would support him.
I guess that means 10th amendment advocates would support him.
Hmm, one would have thought that such a high intellect would realize the part in the 10th Amendment that says "the powers..not prohbited by it [the Constitution] are reserved to the states..." and realized that 'shall not be infringed' is a prohibition. Perhaps not, though.
Hmm, one would have thought that such a high intellect would realize the part in the 10th Amendment that says "the powers..not prohbited by it [the Constitution] are reserved to the states..." and realized that 'shall not be infringed' is a prohibition. Perhaps not, though.
Many 10th amendment advocates I've come across seem to think that the 1st amendment doesn't apply to states, but the 2nd does. Go figure.
cite? If it's 'many' surely you can provide an example of such from the internetz...
I don't have time nor interest in scouring the internetz for multiple examples. I will give you one example from the Godfather of 10th amendment advocacy.
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Its important to recognize that the First amendment applies only to Congress
I don't have time nor interest in scouring the internetz for multiple examples. I will give you one example from the Godfather of 10th amendment advocacy.
Fail. The link does not say anything about the 10th nor 2nd Amendments, per your post above. "Many" examples, yet you can't even come up with one?
Bye bye
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