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Old 02-18-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Here's some actual data for you.

Although we are constantly bombarded with the lie that contraceptive use reduces abortions and unwanted pregnancies, the facts tell a different story. Contraception has the opposite effect. Why?

Because contraception is a lifestyle with a worldview, almost a religion. We might call this religion the Church of Recreational Sex. The message is that everyone has a right - even a sacred duty! - to enjoy sex without responsibility (i.e., marriage and children).

Therefore it's no surprise at all that when a society embraces the contraceptive mentality, as ours has, rates of abortion, out-of-wedlock births, and unwanted pregnancies actually increase rather than decline.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Another anti-choice site.
Funny, real studies say something different.

Might want to look for credible sources instead of the ones presented by people who hate women.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Another anti-choice site.
Funny, real studies say something different.

Might want to look for credible sources instead of the ones presented by people who hate women.
The article, which you didn't read, cites testimony from Planned Parenthood and "pro-choicers" as well.

Alan Guttmacher Institute researcher Stanley K. Henshaw: “Contraceptive users appear to have been more motivated to prevent births than were nonusers.”

Planned Parenthood’s Frederick S. Jaffe, in Abortion Politics, admitted that “…even if everyone were to practice contraception, and use the most effective medically prescribed methods, there would still be a very large number of unwanted pregnancies.”

Abortionist and international contraception promoter Malcolm Potts [former director of Planned Parenthood of England] 1976 (even as early as 1973) quoted in Sex and Social Engineering by Valerie Riches.- “As people turn to contraception, there will be a rise, not a fall, in the abortion rate…”.

In Abortion, he noted, “…those who use contraception are more likely than those who do not to resort to induced abortion…”

Alfred Kinsey, 1955: “At the risk of being repetitious, I would remind the group that we have found the highest frequency of induced abortions in the groups which, in general, most frequently uses contraception.”

Sociologist Lionel Tiger, 1999: “With effective contraception controlled by women, there are still more abortions than ever…[C]ontraception causes abortion.”

British Abortionist Judith Bury, Brook Advisory Centres, 1981: “…women…have come to request [abortions] when contraception fails. There is overwhelming evidence that, contrary to what you might expect, the provision [availability] of contraception leads to an increase in the abortion rate.”
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Here's some actual data for you.

Although we are constantly bombarded with the lie that contraceptive use reduces abortions and unwanted pregnancies, the facts tell a different story. Contraception has the opposite effect. Why?

Because contraception is a lifestyle with a worldview, almost a religion. We might call this religion the Church of Recreational Sex. The message is that everyone has a right - even a sacred duty! - to enjoy sex without responsibility (i.e., marriage and children).

Therefore it's no surprise at all that when a society embraces the contraceptive mentality, as ours has, rates of abortion, out-of-wedlock births, and unwanted pregnancies actually increase rather than decline.
So what do you want done? To ban birth control pills? IF do, do you see any candidate getting a nice round of cheers for proposing such a thing, unless it's before a carefully selected group?
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: North America
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The article, which you didn't read, cites testimony from Planned Parenthood and "pro-choicers" as well.

Alan Guttmacher Institute researcher Stanley K. Henshaw: “Contraceptive users appear to have been more motivated to prevent births than were nonusers.”

Planned Parenthood’s Frederick S. Jaffe, in Abortion Politics, admitted that “…even if everyone were to practice contraception, and use the most effective medically prescribed methods, there would still be a very large number of unwanted pregnancies.”

Abortionist and international contraception promoter Malcolm Potts [former director of Planned Parenthood of England] 1976 (even as early as 1973) quoted in Sex and Social Engineering by Valerie Riches.- “As people turn to contraception, there will be a rise, not a fall, in the abortion rate…”.

In Abortion, he noted, “…those who use contraception are more likely than those who do not to resort to induced abortion…”

Alfred Kinsey, 1955: “At the risk of being repetitious, I would remind the group that we have found the highest frequency of induced abortions in the groups which, in general, most frequently uses contraception.”

Sociologist Lionel Tiger, 1999: “With effective contraception controlled by women, there are still more abortions than ever…[C]ontraception causes abortion.”

British Abortionist Judith Bury, Brook Advisory Centres, 1981: “…women…have come to request [abortions] when contraception fails. There is overwhelming evidence that, contrary to what you might expect, the provision [availability] of contraception leads to an increase in the abortion rate.”

Oh imagine that 'quote mining', in which someone snips little bits of conversation taken out of context to try to prove their point with no real facts .
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: North America
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Here's some actual data for you.

Although we are constantly bombarded with the lie that contraceptive use reduces abortions and unwanted pregnancies, the facts tell a different story. Contraception has the opposite effect. Why?

Because contraception is a lifestyle with a worldview, almost a religion. We might call this religion the Church of Recreational Sex. The message is that everyone has a right - even a sacred duty! - to enjoy sex without responsibility (i.e., marriage and children).

Therefore it's no surprise at all that when a society embraces the contraceptive mentality, as ours has, rates of abortion, out-of-wedlock births, and unwanted pregnancies actually increase rather than decline.
Hmm funny how the numbers of abortions has been dropping in this country for about 20 years with greater access to birth control .
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: #
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People like the OP won't be happy until every man cuts off their penis and every woman shoves a cork up their hoo-haa.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:39 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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I'd rep you chielgirl but I have to spread some around first.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:41 PM
 
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I'd rep you chielgirl but I have to spread some around first.
I often find myself in the same situation.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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If da lawd didn't want birth control da lawd wouldn't have made scientist event them. Da lawd works in mysterious ways...
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