Republicans have done more for minorities and women against the will of the democrats (Representatives, Taliban)

[DC at the Ridge]

To the OP,

Your very first cite is incorrect. Pacheco was not California's governor in 1863. He was serving in the Union army. And in 1863 Pacheco was not a Republican.

[WestCobb]

I'm still waiting for the "complete the record" timeline from 1964 to the present which shows the great racially progressive policies and strategies the GOP championed in this era. Surely they did more than just build a few girls schools in a remote region as a PR stunt, right?

[WestCobb]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

To the OP,

Your very first cite is incorrect. Pacheco was not California's governor in 1863. He was serving in the Union army. And in 1863 Pacheco was not a Republican.

Good work, DC. I forget one should never take RNC "facts" at face value. They must always be fact-checked.

[A&M_Indie_08]

Originally Posted by HistorianDude

Yes. The Republican Party used to be the liberal progressives and the Democratic part used to be the conservative reactionaries.

But that's pretty much ancient history at this point.

Yup, ancient history

Dems, Liberals USED to try and fix real injustices

Reps USED to be about the economy

Now both are full of self serving idiots and don't care about anybody but the Wall St clowns, celebs, corporations and other assorted scumbags

[Jadex]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

To the OP,

Your very first cite is incorrect. Pacheco was not California's governor in 1863. He was serving in the Union army. And in 1863 Pacheco was not a Republican.

Are you sure he wasnt a republican because these sites state he was

Romualdo Pacheco

Political Party: Republican
Governors of California

If that doesnt work for you maybe this site will. Hopefully the library of congress will work.
United States Representative
Republican of California

Hispanic Americans in Congress -- Pacheco

[DC at the Ridge]

To the OP,

Your #2 assertion is incorrect. A Democrat was one of the three people involved in the writing of the 13th Amendment. For a fairly comprehensive analysis of the 13th Amendment origin and ratification process:

13th Amendment Site

[WilliamSmyth]

Originally Posted by Lucidkitty

More republicans voted for civil rights then did democrats by a decent percentage, and nixon fully funded LBJ's great society programs which he easily could have put the breaks on if he wanted to.

Here is the vote on the 64 Civil Rights Act.

Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Senate version:[13]

Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%–31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%–18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:[13]

Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%–37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%–20%)

The difference was regional. The Northern politicians supported and the Southern politicians opposed it.

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)

Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%–15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%–16%)

The ramifications afterward was that the Democratic Party lost its hold on Southern Democrats, many of whom switched to the Republican Party, led by people like Strom Thrumond and Jesse Helms.

[Jadex]

Originally Posted by WestCobb

Good work, DC. I forget one should never take RNC "facts" at face value. They must always be fact-checked.

This might be embarrassing for you but I have provided links, one even from the library of congress stating he was a republican.

So guess you should take the RNC at face value and as a fact

[QuixoticHobbit]

Originally Posted by rikoshaprl

Liberals try to rewrite history but the truth is out there if one takes the time to research and avoid the BS like you just provided.

Liberals MAKE history, not rewrite it. Conservatives live in the past.

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by Jadex

Are you sure he wasnt a republican because these sites state he was

Romualdo Pacheco

Political Party: Republican
Governors of California

If that doesnt work for you maybe this site will. Hopefully the library of congress will work.
United States Representative
Republican of California

Hispanic Americans in Congress -- Pacheco

I didn't state he wasn't a Republican governor. I stated that in 1863 he wasn't a Republican. Because, he wasn't. He started out his political career as a Democrat. In the 1860's he was switching around with small minor parties. The Republican Party didn't come into existence until after 1850 in any part of the United States, and when Lincoln was elected, it was an Eastern US political party, and did not have much traction in California until after the Civil War, whereupon it began to grow in prominence. However, it's growth was linked to PROGRESSIVE policies, and attracted people whose politics at that time were considered LIBERAL.