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Old 02-20-2012, 07:00 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Maybe you missed my point. I don't think any government, local or otherwise, should put its nose in the business of marriage. It should not be a factor. It shouldn't ban a type of marriage and it shouldn't support a type of it. If you want to marry 14 woman at the same time, have at it. It should not be recognized one way or another. It shouldn't show up on a tax form either. Everything should be based on individuals and marriage should not factor into the government's role. That way this vote wouldn't be able to be a vote. It would be a non factor.
So, how do you recommend dealing with survivorship issues when it comes to finances or issues when you have sudden medical emergencies? These issues and more can probably be resolved through a series of cumbersome legal documents but legal marriage acts as the social vehicle by which relationships are understood. For those couples who have dependent children, the issues only get more complicated.

Let's say you and your unmarried spouse are out of town and one of you has a heart attack. How do you suppose you handle this situation at the hospital if you two are legal strangers to each other? Do you think you'll be hauling around your documents from your attorney (assuming that you even have them) ? And boy oh boy would having no legal marriage be a boon to attorneys! Just what we need, more legal documentation and more attorney services.
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Old 02-20-2012, 07:13 PM
 
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The fact is, government is involved with marriage and all the complex legal issues that follow. That is not going to change. I truly believe that our children will look at this debate and wonder what we were thinking. In the same way that it seems crazy to rational people that interracial marriage was once illegal.

The younger generation simply doesn't see this as an issue and they are right. It will be a sad day for North Carolina if this amendment passes.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:16 PM
 
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Marriage should not belong in the government, local or otherwise. The governments should be neutral on marriage. It should not recognize it or regulate it in any fashion. This applies to straight or gay marriage.
Agreed. If it were up to me, the ONLY thing the government would provide is civil unions. Civil unions would hold all the same legal rights as marriages currently do. Then, if you want to have a religious marriage ceremony, you work that out privately amongst yourselves. The churches can do what they want to and the government isn't openly discriminating against consenting adults.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Wake, NC, school board endorses gay-marriage amendment
It was the Wake COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, not the SCHOOL BOARD! Why on earth would the School Board be voting on this?

Tidbit for those who didn't know: Paul Coble, Chair of the County Commissioners, is Jesse Helms' nephew. Quelle Surprise.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:42 PM
 
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I thought I wrote "board" -- not school board!

Sorry! Fatigue!!!

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It was the Wake COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, not the SCHOOL BOARD! Why on earth would the School Board be voting on this?

Tidbit for those who didn't know: Paul Coble, Chair of the County Commissioners, is Jesse Helms' nephew. Quelle Surprise.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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This issue will not go away as long as things continue to be unequal. Get used to it.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I think the Amendment will fail in Wake.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:03 PM
 
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Ahh, why would that stop you from bringing good employers there?

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Agreed. If it were up to me, the ONLY thing the government would provide is civil unions. Civil unions would hold all the same legal rights as marriages currently do. Then, if you want to have a religious marriage ceremony, you work that out privately amongst yourselves. The churches can do what they want to and the government isn't openly discriminating against consenting adults.
The easier thing would just be to get rid of the word marriage. That's what gets people emotional. They don't really care much about the implications of two people being contractually bound.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:02 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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FWIW, the School Board did not endorse the amendment, it's controlled by the Democrats. The thread title should be changed. The Republican controlled County Commissioners are the ones who endorsed the amendment. Also, the City of Raleigh did exactly opposite the County Commissioners...they publicly opposed the amendment.
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Old 02-20-2012, 11:05 PM
 
Location: NC
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Its the county board not the school board. Every GOPer on the school board who was up for re-election got thrown out last November and the school board is majority Dem. unlike the board of commissioners.
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