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" New Hampshire man who fired his handgun into the ground to scare an alleged burglar"
He mite well be shooting at them, as what he did was attempted murder.
castle doctrine or not, you still need to feel threatened. Going and getting your gun, then going outside and confronting the burglar of your neighbors garage does not sound like a guy who is fearful of being hurt or killed nor was anyone else in danger.
You can only discharge your gun/weapon if you or someone else is going to be killed or experience great bodily harm.
" but I had to make that guy realize I was serious"
No he didn't, all he had to do is stay inside and call the cops not try to be a vigilante .
If your not going to shoot them leave the gun holstered.
" New Hampshire man who fired his handgun into the ground to scare an alleged burglar"
He mite well be shooting at them, as what he did was attempted murder.
castle doctrine or not, you still need to feel threatened. Going and getting your gun, then going outside and confronting the burglar of your neighbors garage does not sound like a guy who is fearful of being hurt or killed nor was anyone else in danger.
You can only discharge your gun/weapon if you or someone else is going to be killed or experience great bodily harm.
" but I had to make that guy realize I was serious"
No he didn't, all he had to do is stay inside and call the cops not try to be a vigilante .
If your not going to shoot them leave the gun holstered.
ps I do support the castle doctrine and CCW laws.
Mr. Fleming is welcome to move to Texas, where we DO allow for use of deadly force to protect a neighbor's property.
Yea, seen....have a problem...or just a faillure to know what it means....
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Originally Posted by Rick Roma
Gun owners of NH? What do you think she's going to say to the press? the ground is not a safe direction- period. Sorry, chief. If you think it is you need training...
Yep, so we should take your assumption that she is wrong and take your assumption that you are correct...Ha ha not gonna happen....
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Originally Posted by Rick Roma
Um, not really. I just know that firing a gun into the ground is not a safe direction. The guy is lucky nothing else happened due to his reckless actions.
Again, your assumption, cause that ground is full of rocks, I can show you plenty of groound that has no rocks....
Or in Texas, also shoot people to protect your property, or a neighbor's property.
It's "THE LAW!".
You need to really re-read the section on the Castle Bill and protecting 3rd party property. You're missing a KEY bit of information in your interpretation.
Reading this now 14 pages of comment, it becomes painfully obvious that a lot of posters in this thread have not read anything more than the headline or, maybe, the original FOX story.
For instance, there are comments about the perp crawling out of a window (he jumped through one from the second floor); talk about defending his neighbors house right next door (the neighbors house was 1000 ft away); questions about whether or not he was "patrolling" the neighborhood (he first went looking for the suspect in his pickup and then on foot). All of those misperceptions could have been eliminated by simply reading the follow up I posted on...what? The second page?
And, there's a vigorous discussion about shooting in the ground and what's legal or not, yet nobody has bothered to research and post the actual law under which he was charged in New Hampshire, whose laws apply to this case and nobody else's.
It would be funny if it weren't so sad. I guess these days political debate is about emotions and opinions and the facts, or the law, be damned.
Reading this now 14 pages of comment, it becomes painfully obvious that a lot of posters in this thread have not read anything more than the headline or, maybe, the original FOX story.
For instance, there are comments about the perp crawling out of a window (he jumped through one from the second floor); talk about defending his neighbors house right next door (the neighbors house was 1000 ft away); questions about whether or not he was "patrolling" the neighborhood (he first went looking for the suspect in his pickup and then on foot). All of those misperceptions could have been eliminated by simply reading the follow up I posted on...what? The second page?
And, there's a vigorous discussion about shooting in the ground and what's legal or not, yet nobody has bothered to research and post the actual law under which he was charged in New Hampshire, whose laws apply to this case and nobody else's.
It would be funny if it weren't so sad. I guess these days political debate is about emotions and opinions and the facts, or the law, be damned.
Agree. Most of the issues listed are what Mr. Flemming is going to have a problem with, open carry state or not. A lot of people are attempting to use the 'Castle Doctrine' as a base line self defense claim for him, omitting two key parts of that doctrine for it to be applicable.
Not saying the "intent" of Mr. Flemming was wrong...but his application and actions were clearly wrong and as I teach my kids, there are consequences to the actions they make. Mr. Flemming is going to find that out the hard way.
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