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View Poll Results: 15% flat tax?
Yes 62 52.54%
No 56 47.46%
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Old 02-25-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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Nope. Income tax should be tiered and the poorest should not pay any.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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You do realize the thread is about a flat tax right? You're welcome to start a new thread on the merits of your plan but don't try to confusion the issues discussed here.
And i have asnwered that earlier by saying i prefer the fair tax
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:59 PM
 
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Before not all had equal rights and they do today. Everyone wants equal rights so why not have equal taxes? Times have changed.

If they tax the heck out of the capitalist (the business owner) who puts his money, time on the line to be taxes to death so YOU can have a job, Ins. Then penalize him for creation of jobs, screw that. I would be moving my business off shore and have my business make 500% profit and only work 3-6 moths out of the year.

You all better enjoy the unemployment long lines.

Tax the rich, tax the rich.

How about the poor be like Sammy Davis Jr. make a life that you want.
They don't put their money on the line so YOU can have a job, they do it so THEY can make money. Please don't give me that Johnny Job Seed crap
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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No Id support a 0% flat tax....
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:29 PM
 
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There is no strict definition of a VAT. Its all up to the implementation of it. My post was in response to having the service exemption which is the very thing that is seen so often in sales taxes.
Please keep the discussion civil. There is NO reason for statements like this, "only tax cheat scumbag lawyers".

If we didn't have a tax code of thousands of pages, we wouldn't need tax lawyers.

To find LEGAL deductions within the tax code is their job.

If you don't like a certain tax code, complain to your local Congressman.

Do you own a house and takes the home mortgage deduction? If you do, you could be considered a tax cheat scumbag,
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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Every problem is solved with this
Tax property, not people, for a fairer society

Levies on land values do not depress or distort wealth creation and are easy to assess, cheap to collect and hard to avoid

Tax property, not people, for a fairer society | Business | The Guardian




When you own land, you get in my way. When you make things, you cost me nothing.



* Adam Smith was for it (where did all the neo-liberals just go?)
* has no impact at all on goods and services(see law of rents and price discrimination)

* pay for what you use
* easy to apply.
* can't be fudged.
* simple
* avoidable
* stops land bubbles





Yet all the talk is on how we can tax producers so fat cats and get up at noon and count squatting profits.
Ultra-capitalists support them because they understand that allowing the rich to ring-fence much of the nation's assets and protect the mechanisms that allow values to increase without any serious government interference robs their children, and everyone else's, of any incentive to work harder.

That a pretty good description of me if I do say so myself.
the problem I have with property tax is can be very unfair.

Take 2 houses in the same committee.

1 owner takes pride in his house. Takes care of a nice yard. keeps it painted, etc.

His property value will be rated more then the house down the street that is a derilick, No grass, paint pealing. things broken etc.

Both owners receive the same gov't services because of where they live.

One owner is being "punished' for being a good citizen.
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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the problem I have with property tax is can be very unfair.

Take 2 houses in the same committee.

1 owner takes pride in his house. Takes care of a nice yard. keeps it painted, etc.

His property value will be rated more then the house down the street that is a derilick, No grass, paint pealing. things broken etc.

Both owners receive the same gov't services because of where they live.

One owner is being "punished' for being a good citizen.
NO, one property owner has INVESTED more into his property so it is worth more.

FYI, some people intentionally keep their property in disrepair to keep their taxes down, wise up.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Great, your state tax collector steps in to collect for the feds.

I pity the poor fools in California who have a ravenous state tax collector.

And I see more regulation coming down that road.
State tax collector would have nothing to do with the federal fair tax
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