Would you support a 15% flat tax? (unemployment, wage, salary, death)

[Cletus Awreetus-Awrightus]

Originally Posted by Majin

15% tax, period, on all income levels, no deductions, no earned income credit.

eh.. i don't care for such a proposal, but it'd be better than our current tax law.

[wjtwet]

Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost

That isn't the kind of math I'm looking for. I'm looking for government revenues (at all levels), and expenses... aka budgeting.

At 23 percent it is revenue neutral
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[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by freemkt

Under a VAT, renters would pay disproportionately higher taxes than homeowners for equal consumption.

B.S.

Even if true, which I don't believe, who cares?

No one is forcing you to rent. If you don't like it get out.

Everything I have read about the VAT is, YOU PAY WHEN YOU PURCHASE SOMETHING. RENTING IS NOT PURCHASING.

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

B.S.

Even if true, which I don't believe, who cares?

No one is forcing you to rent. If you don't like it get out.

Everything I have read about the VAT is, YOU PAY WHEN YOU PURCHASE SOMETHING. RENTING IS NOT PURCHASING.

What a load of preposterous crap. You are purchasing a service, and only tax cheat scumbag lawyers could define their "service" as tax exempt.


A VAT without taxing do nothing paper shufflers is even worse than the garden variety.

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by wjtwet

At 23 percent it is revenue neutral
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Not claims but logical data using Math please, preferably broken down by federal, state and local revenues and spending.

BTW, fair tax and flat tax aren't quite the same thing.

[BentBow]

Prosperity should never be taxed.... Period.

It is counter productive to punish people for making this nation function.

A usage tax is the only tax that is fair and constitutional.

[coped]

Originally Posted by JadeBlade

Obviously, I would, so you are wrong. Just like life, if you want it, pay for it.

I suspect, nobody would pay more than the minimum, and the excessive levels of govt't would wither on the vine - as they SHOULD

Define excessive. Should you pay for your own roads? Tanks? Protection?

You say this in theory like all Ron Paulites. It sounds good and just, but it's just too simplistic and discounts the compounding advantage and disadvantages of power. In reality you would see a massive underclass with a few, mostly hereditary, overlords. The massive underclass would need to be appeased or supressed in some way or else the wealthy would live with the constant fear of violence.

Which brings me to my point: The lowest taxed country today is Mexico. You want the US to be Mexico?

[GregW]

Only on incomes from all sources over a 90th percentile deductable. I do not support sales and property taxes at all. VAT taxes are an abomination.

[Quick Enough]

Originally Posted by gwynedd1

What a load of preposterous crap. You are purchasing a service, and only tax cheat scumbag lawyers could define their "service" as tax exempt.


A VAT without taxing do nothing paper shufflers is even worse than the garden variety.

What a childish rant.

I don't think you know very much about what a VAT is.

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

What a childish rant.

I don't think you know very much about what a VAT is.

There is no strict definition of a VAT. Its all up to the implementation of it. My post was in response to having the service exemption which is the very thing that is seen so often in sales taxes.