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Old 02-25-2012, 11:52 PM
 
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People shouldn't worry anyway. Whats one judge gonna do? I also doubt that the federal government will ever require all states to allow gay marriage. In the end it's going to be the states choice to allow it or not.
why would someone 'worry' about not being able to pick on demean others.... sociopaths?
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Old 02-25-2012, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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It's not demeaning anyone. It's just the law.
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"An openly gay Texas judge says she refuses to conduct marriage ceremonies for straight couples until same-sex couples can also wed."

Read more: Gay Texas judge, Tonya Parker, won

Wow! Will she remain on the bench? This reminds me a bit of a recent case in Michigan where a psych. college student refused to counsel gay clients stating that due to religious reasons, she didn't feel comfortable with regard to their relationship issues and offered to refer them to another therapist at the college clinic. That student was fired.
The last paragraph says she's elected not appointed so if voters don't like it they can give her the heave ho next time she's up for re-election.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:10 AM
 
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Actually, chicks are more sexist than men.
No, it's just you they dont like.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:18 AM
 
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I'm saying the definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman.
marriage, n. (Bc) 1. The legal union of a couple as spouses. - The essentials of a valid marriage are (1) parties legally capable of contracting to marry, (2) mutual consent or agreement, and (3) an actual contracting in the form prescribed by law. Marriage has important consequences in many areas of the law, such as torts, criminal law, evidence, debtor-creditor relations, property, and contracts.

-Black’s Law Dictionary Ninth Edition 2009 Pg 1059
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:06 AM
 
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marriage, n. (Bc) 1. The legal union of a couple as spouses. - The essentials of a valid marriage are (1) parties legally capable of contracting to marry, (2) mutual consent or agreement, and (3) an actual contracting in the form prescribed by law. Marriage has important consequences in many areas of the law, such as torts, criminal law, evidence, debtor-creditor relations, property, and contracts.

-Black’s Law Dictionary Ninth Edition 2009 Pg 1059
How about this. If you want to get married in one of the 42 [?] states that don't recognize same sex marriage, bring a copy of Black's to the town clerk and see if you get a license.

Civil "marriage" is whatever the governing authority says it is.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:12 AM
 
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Can everyone get back on topic, which is about this Judge's refusal to honor the law/perform her duties, impartially, because of her personal beliefs/wishes.
I thought someone already posted that it's irrelevant, as conducting ceremonies is optional. JotPs are not required by law to perform them.

So the argument's a non-starter.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:17 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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How about getting the Federal Government completely out of the marriage business?

I don't care if people of the same gender get married...as long as they are not harming other people or breaking the law!
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:19 AM
 
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Because it is the definition.
And the 'definition' of a voter used to be a white male landowner.

And?
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:20 AM
 
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How about getting the Federal Government completely out of the marriage business?

I don't care if people of the same gender get married...as long as they are not harming other people or breaking the law!
There are various benefits associated with marriage that are a lot easier to roll into one than to chase around the government system. Consider it streamlining. Taxes are less for joint filing, you get family partnerships, you get power of attorney, military and veteran benefits, etc. Marriage is much more a social contract than a religious one--because non-religious people get married all the time.
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