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Old 02-25-2012, 07:40 PM
 
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How does "They don't want affordable housing in their neighborhood" differ from class warfare?

How does one class trying to exclude another class from a neighborhood not constitute class warfare?
Still requesting a link and more information about this particular city's planned urban development map.

Generally urban planning it has nothing to do with "class warfare" no matter how you wish to spin it. Rather, city plans call for a graduation of building zones from rural to industrial to commercial, to trailer parks, to multi-family (apartments/condos) to smaller adjoined multi-family (duplexes through quadplexes), to single family homes. Parks and schools are usually scattered about the low density multi-family and single family home areas in the suburbs wheras you may see them alongside commercial in long established urban city centers.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:43 PM
 
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Oh geez...this was a reprinted article from 1999. OMG and all that.

The article is part of a multi-page feature on neighborhood change, particularly in "historically black" neighborhoods which are becoming white and are gentrifying.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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What city, what neighborhood?
Who are the more well to do people?
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:46 PM
 
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They don't want affordable housing in their neighborhood.

[i call it NIMBYism]
Neither do I.

If you can afford to maintain the lifestyle in my neighborhood, I don't care what you are.

If not, stay where you belong.
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Oh geez...this was a reprinted article from 1999. OMG and all that.

The article is part of a multi-page feature on neighborhood change, particularly in "historically black" neighborhoods which are becoming white and are gentrifying.
If it's what I think it is, this is more about existing property owners/residents being concerned about the preservation of their neighborhood's character than about class, i.e. they didn't want to see their old neighborhood destroyed for new development.

[the neighborhood was actually comprised of individuals with varying income levels]
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:55 PM
 
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Still requesting a link and more information about this particular city's planned urban development map.

Generally urban planning it has nothing to do with "class warfare" no matter how you wish to spin it. Rather, city plans call for a graduation of building zones from rural to industrial to commercial, to trailer parks, to multi-family (apartments/condos) to smaller adjoined multi-family (duplexes through quadplexes), to single family homes. Parks and schools are usually scattered about the low density multi-family and single family home areas in the suburbs wheras you may see them alongside commercial in long established urban city centers.

Yes, I know a few things about zoning and Comprehensive Plans. In this case, the Portland Development Commission was offering a low-interest loan plus a deferred-interest loan from federal funds, so the development people considered it in conformity with existing plans.

There are many small apartment buildings on otherwise single-family blocks, they seem to coexist just fine, and 10 rowhouses wouldn't ruffle anyone's feathers if it were aimed at middle-income families.
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Old 02-25-2012, 08:03 PM
 
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OMG I lived very close to Co-Op City when it was under construction.

I was against it because it made traffic a nightmare for everyone in the area (especially in the years it was being built) and forget about getting into or out of the Pathmark store.

Call me a transportation NIMBY.
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Old 02-25-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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Yes, I know a few things about zoning and Comprehensive Plans. In this case, the Portland Development Commission was offering a low-interest loan plus a deferred-interest loan from federal funds, so the development people considered it in conformity with existing plans.

There are many small apartment buildings on otherwise single-family blocks, they seem to coexist just fine, and 10 rowhouses wouldn't ruffle anyone's feathers if it were aimed at middle-income families.
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OMG I lived very close to Co-Op City when it was under construction.

I was against it because it made traffic a nightmare for everyone in the area (especially in the years it was being built) and forget about getting into or out of the Pathmark store.

Call me a transportation NIMBY.
Pot, meet kettle.
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Old 02-25-2012, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Should have called co op city stack and pack instead, looks like a cess pool but I live in the country and I am bias.
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