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Old 02-25-2012, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Use the link below to see if there is a chance that your city, county, village or whatever is a member of the group. Some people have been led to believe that it doesn't push for smart growth, as the group calls sustainability. I have seen that sustainability is code speak for population reduction and after viewing Agenda 21, the parent of ICLEI, I am very sure that is what it is.

ICLEI - Local Governments for Sustainability : Global Members

Use this link to find all about ICLEI and if any communities near you belong to the group. There are some that have recently dropped out but it is not easy to do that. Once they have you they have ways of keeping towns and so forth. Some people even believe that EPA is working for Agenda 21 and I will soon show you a video of an example of that.

Notice that most of the member governments are from both coasts but few from the Gulf. I am very proud that the only Kansas cities that are members are in the Kansas City area and all part of the greater Kansas City area, at that.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:31 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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LOL , Population reduction? That pretty much cancels out Smart growth and Sustainable communities.... If you knew anything about Smart Growth you would know that....or developments in general. Why would the US govt or UN want to lower then Population in Developed nations? It really makes no sense when you really think about it.... Ive honestly tried to get the point behind the opposition to smart growth , but it seems people don't have all the facts. Don't say I don't have all the facts your barking up the wrong tree. Maybe you should visit a Smart Growth development...

Theres some of the Smart Growth / Infill Plans below....







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Old 02-26-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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Well if you look at plans for concentrations of population in the US you may start having some questions. Looking at planning better is certainly important, however, what comes along w/ that in terms of where money goes, how plans are implemented, who gets say so etc... matters. It is important to pay attention and look into how your local area is implementing it.

This has some important bits even if you don't care for the presentation.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

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Old 02-26-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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LOL , Population reduction? That pretty much cancels out Smart growth and Sustainable communities.... If you knew anything about Smart Growth you would know that....or developments in general. Why would the US govt or UN want to lower then Population in Developed nations? It really makes no sense when you really think about it.... Ive honestly tried to get the point behind the opposition to smart growth , but it seems people don't have all the facts. Don't say I don't have all the facts your barking up the wrong tree. Maybe you should visit a Smart Growth development...

Theres some of the Smart Growth / Infill Plans below....
Where are the Farms, and Gardens?

Not very sustainable if you can't feed yourself.
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:49 PM
 
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This video is better. The one above has some important bits though.


Agenda 21 for Public Officials YouTube - YouTube
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Use the link below to see if there is a chance that your city, county, village or whatever is a member of the group. Some people have been led to believe that it doesn't push for smart growth, as the group calls sustainability. I have seen that sustainability is code speak for population reduction and after viewing Agenda 21, the parent of ICLEI, I am very sure that is what it is.

ICLEI - Local Governments for Sustainability : Global Members

Use this link to find all about ICLEI and if any communities near you belong to the group. There are some that have recently dropped out but it is not easy to do that. Once they have you they have ways of keeping towns and so forth. Some people even believe that EPA is working for Agenda 21 and I will soon show you a video of an example of that.

Notice that most of the member governments are from both coasts but few from the Gulf. I am very proud that the only Kansas cities that are members are in the Kansas City area and all part of the greater Kansas City area, at that.
So you watched some crackpot's right wing, paranoid mocumentary and now you're concerned that this organization is trying to destroy human life on earth? Seriously? I mean, come on, seriously? Bhahahaha, incidentally, there's like a 1000 cities on here that are part of the organization in the US and they're not all bastions of liberalism.

I think you seriously need to start worrying about yourself if you think that organizations like this are out to depopulate the planet.

I see plenty of gardens in the picture. As for farms, they're probably in the midwest somewhere. You know that they don't typically go in the middle of urban areas right? I mean in whatever city you live, it's not a coincidence that there's no farms in the middle of downtown.

All of this coming from the guy who thought that a pipeline that couldn't be built until 2015 and shutting down 33 oil rigs in the Gulf for a short period of time is the cause of the current price of oil.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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Default Prince Phillip would like to "Cull" the human race.

Prince Philip, in his Foreword to If I Were an Animal - United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986
I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus.

Press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on the occasion of the "Caring for Creation'' conference of the North American Conference on Religion and Ecology, May 18, 1990.
It is now apparent that the ecological pragmatism of the so-called pagan religions, such as that of the American Indians, the Polynesians, and the Australian Aborigines, was a great deal more realistic in terms of conservation ethics than the more intellectual monotheistic philosophies of the revealed religions.

Address on Receiving Honorary Degree from the University of Western Ontario, Canada, July 1, 1983.
For example, the World Health Organization Project, designed to eradicate malaria from Sri Lanka in the postwar years, achieved its purpose. But the problem today is that Sri Lanka must feed three times as many mouths, find three times as many jobs, provide three times the housing, energy, schools, hospitals and land for settlement in order to maintain the same standards. Little wonder the natural environment and wildlife in Sri Lanka has suffered. The fact [is] ... that the best-intentioned aid programs are at least partially responsible for the problems.
Preface to Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988, p.|8.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:10 PM
 
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Yea Roy, i used to eat Icicles all the time when i was growing up.

Oh wait..
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:10 PM
 
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Where are the Farms, and Gardens?

Not very sustainable if you can't feed yourself.
No need to worry as the government will take care of that type of nonsense like food if they decide your worth giving some to. If not your shipped off to a work camp on their new high speed rail to provide for those who they deem the chosen sustainable ones and left to work until you die. I wonder what they will call em? Gulag is just to communist for the time being.
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Stack em and rack em. The test bed for all this nonsense was public housing projects. Stack em all in central locations to control them. They are just branching out now. Gotta have enough land for the animals to roam and the chosen ones to enjoy.
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