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Old 03-05-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Actually Wendell, I've heard this said so many times ... in various terms ... yet each time it is repeated, has the same effect of turning my stomach. Unfortunately, this simply illustrates the fact that to many, a lie repeated often enough is eventually accepted as the truth. However, the REAL TRUTH is, this tripe really bares no resemblance to the truth at all. And, the levels of denial, or intellectual incompetence, or dishonesty, or pure stupidity required in order to believe such nonsense is truly mind boggling.

The constitution may have been written and structured with the specific intention to create and maintain a "secular" government, but the founding of this nation was based on a much deeper set of spiritual ideals. And one need look no further than our "founding document", The Declaration of Independence, which clearly states those founding principles in it's preamble:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."


Clearly, there can be no mistaking the true principles of our Nation's founding, which states unequivocally that we are all created equal, and that we posses unalienable rights given us by God, to which no man or government may deny to us. Further, those principles include the right to change or abolish governments that threaten or deny those God given rights to which each one of us are endowed by our Creator, and are not subject to the arbitrary decision of other men or governments. Those are the fundamental principles for which this Nation was founded.

Anyone who possesses a rudimentary level of literacy could not be so confused as to miss this very clear message, with not one, but TWO direct references to God ... one reference using the very word "God", and the other, "Creator". Then, we have a couple more "inferences" to God, in the commentary which refers to "human events", and "powers of the earth".

Let me repeat, very clearly so as to clear your extreme confusion on this matter .... the PRIMARY PRINCIPLE and driving force and foundation of our nation was that all human beings possess certain rights given them by God to which no other human being or government can take away from them. These are rights you a born with, and are not granted by men, nor by governments, nor by documents like the constitution. You certainly wouldn't be suggesting that prior to 1776, human beings had no rights, would you be? If you are, you're crazy.

The "secular" nature of the construction of our government was never a denial or rejection of God, but was simply the recognition that history demonstrated that certain tyrants often emerge to claim themselves to be the "spokespersons" for God, and that there is no measurable difference in the degree of tyranny that can be imposed by such "theocratic" rulers, as measured against that imposed by a "Monarch" or Royal Ruler, who so often throughout history have claimed their right to rule as "Divine" ... hence the phrase "Divine Rights of Kings".

This modern day confusion, and obfuscation of the truth has one specific purpose now .... that is to do away with God altogether, because if there is no God, then there are obviously no "God given rights", and therefore, any rights you may enjoy must be granted (or denied) to you by ALMIGHTY Government. That's why your head has been filled with such nonsensical tripe ... because government wants to be God, and government is a most jealous God indeed, which demands your undivided loyalty to it.

And it's amazing how STUPID people can be to become so hoodwinked and led down the garden path to the point that they actually INSIST on relinquishing their God given unalienable rights in exchange for the pleasure of begging government tyrants and criminals for their token blessings.

It's actually quite pathetic and disgusting that we have so many among us that lack the basic human dignity which would automatically prevent them from bowing and groveling to despots for a mere pat on the head.
Very well said, Kudos sir.................

Dano
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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Just like deciding to build a house has absolutely nothing to do with the structural design, the Declaration says absolutely nothing about how the new country (The United States) will be governed or how it will function. Sorry this is too complex for you to grasp.
You are thinking too logically to reach these people. But I commend your effort.
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