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Old 02-26-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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B.S.

If a nine-month-old fetus survives a late-term labor-induced abortion, there it is, alive and breathing with arms, legs a body and a head. Probably even crying.

Obama won't deem that baby, that you can hold in your arms, to be a person who has a right to live. Obama is someone who would kill that baby.

If a baby is born prematurly, say at seven months, it is murder if you kill that baby.

But, it's not murder to kill a nine month old baby who survives a late-term labor-induced abortion?

It's right there. You can see it's a human baby. Why is it not wrong to kill that baby?

Then what do you do with it? Throw it in the dumpster behind the clinic with all the other fetuses?
You can't reason with Obama clones. It's not a baby in the womb and it's still not a baby if it makes it outside the womb!

Jill Stanek on the O'Reilly Factor - YouTube


This fool says it's above his pay grade to know when life begins. But it's NOT above his pay grade as to when it can be murdered??


Obama On Abortion - YouTube

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Old 02-26-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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What was true in 2008 remains true today:

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Total LYING crap. Shame on the OP for posting this garbage. The true story is that the bill in the IL legislature was so poorly worded that it was nothing more than an attempt to overturn Roe within that state, and the bill was seen as DOA due to its being unconstitutional. MOST of the IL legislature voted against that stupid effort by anti-abortion morons.

Instead of posting an idiot-gram, why not the truth from the Obama website, then ****:

Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need |

Excerpt: "The suggestion that Obama -- the proud father of two little girls -- and others who opposed these bills supported infanticide is deeply offensive and insulting. There is no room for these kinds of distortions and lies in this campaign. What Senator Obama’s attackers don’t tell you is that existing Illinois law already requires doctors to provide medical care in the very rare case that babies are born alive during abortions. They will not tell you that Obama voted against these laws in Illinois because they were clear attempts to undermine Roe v. Wade. They will not tell you that these laws were also opposed by pro-choice Republicans and the Illinois Medical Society -- a leading association of doctors in the state. And they will not tell you that Obama has always maintained that he would have voted for the federal version of this bill, which did not pose such a threat. The bills Senator Obama voted against in Illinois were crafted to undermine Roe v. Wade or pre-existing Illinois state law regulating reproductive healthcare and medical practice, which is why Senator Obama objected to them.""

Every time some jerk posts the "born alive" lie, they're going to get this post in reply.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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His middle name, of Arabic origin, means "good" or "handsome one."
Absolutely.... you are right...........
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:47 PM
 
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If a fetus is a child why can I not deduct that child as a dependent on my income tax? From the day the doctor declares it.

I did not plan on voting for Obama. The Republicans are in some state of mass craziness. Putting these guys in charge of the government is a frightening thought.

There is always an allowance for humans looking and saying things from their own point of view. Misleading and lying are one and the same. How do the Bishops stand on lying?

So it takes a document to declare someone as human??

So I guess a document can declare persons as non-human too???

Oh wait.....that's been done before!!



The Holocaust: A Tragic Legacy - 1933-1939

Dred Scott v. Sandford - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 02-26-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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Obama is worse than a monster in this
and look at his minions rushing in to say it ain't so
how anyone in their right mind could defend this low life ass hole is
unbelievable
but here they are!!
Do not give a crap about a nine month old live baby
oh hell no
well rant on folks, because if you stand for this you have gone over the frigging ledge
what a poor excuse for humans
The actual number of Obama's "present" votes was 129 during his eight years in the Illinois Senate. Obama's campaign says anyone criticizing his "present" votes doesn't understand how this type of vote is used in the rough-and-tumble give-and-take of the Illinois legislature.


But this horrific bill??? Oh he drove there personally to fight for this!!

This is his character on full display.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:59 PM
 
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Citation to this speech???
FactCheck.org : Obama and ‘Infanticide’





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Old 02-26-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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Barack Obama and Joe Biden: The Change We Need |

Excerpt: "The suggestion that Obama -- the proud father of two little girls -- and others who opposed these bills supported infanticide is deeply offensive and insulting. There is no room for these kinds of distortions and lies in this campaign. What Senator Obama’s attackers don’t tell you is that existing Illinois law already requires doctors to provide medical care in the very rare case that babies are born alive during abortions. They will not tell you that Obama voted against these laws in Illinois because they were clear attempts to undermine Roe v. Wade. They will not tell you that these laws were also opposed by pro-choice Republicans and the Illinois Medical Society -- a leading association of doctors in the state. And they will not tell you that Obama has always maintained that he would have voted for the federal version of this bill, which did not pose such a threat. The bills Senator Obama voted against in Illinois were crafted to undermine Roe v. Wade or pre-existing Illinois state law regulating reproductive healthcare and medical practice, which is why Senator Obama objected to them.""

So who said this? You posted a dead link.

An excerpt like this is meaningless. And they changed this explaination later anyway.


There was an amendment to the bill written at the time of the vote that was identical to that of Federal Law.

"Nothing in this Section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this Section." That wording matches exactly the comparable provision in the federal law.
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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Obama doesn't support infanticide and argueing the point makes you seem foolish. The bill was bad, blame the writer. Maybe if politicians stopped trying to be "cute" and frame everything to make anyone who doesn't buy in look like the bad guy (bad bill make bad laws btw...they aren't bad guys) this wouldn't happen.
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:21 PM
 
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Obama doesn't support infanticide and argueing the point makes you seem foolish. The bill was bad, blame the writer. Maybe if politicians stopped trying to be "cute" and frame everything to make anyone who doesn't buy in look like the bad guy (bad bill make bad laws btw...they aren't bad guys) this wouldn't happen.

Oh, you mean a badly written bill like Obamacare?


The Illinois bill was short and written so plainly that a 7th grader could have understood it.
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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Oh, you mean a badly written bill like Obamacare?


The Illinois bill was short and written so plainly that a 7th grader could have understood it.
Exactly
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