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Old 02-27-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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Stop sending checks.

Children won't starve. I'm not so sure about their idiot parents.
Children won't starve because you are presuming that some other part of society will step up. You don't mind someone else stepping up. You just don't want to step up yourself. That attitude is akin to "let them eat cake". Because you base your position on the assumption that someone else will take care of the problem. And the reality is that that simply isn't always true. Sometimes there isn't someone else to take care of the problem. Sometimes children do starve. Sometimes children get abandoned. Sometimes children become ill because of malnutrition. Out of the "checks" you send, maybe a few pennies go to feed hungry children. And you're such a humanitarian you begrudge that.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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when republipukes defund programs that provide access to medicine like birth control.

Ever live in an area where the nearest publich health facility is 40-50 miles away, and you can only get there by bus, then have to wait hours just to see a doctor?

No? Well, that's what most poor people have to face. In the end, they feel its not worth it.


Ever paid for birth control without the help of insurance? Tell me what poor person can afford $1000 a month alone for birth control, and still have to pay for rent, transportation, food and other important necessities.
I usually agree with you, Arus, but where do you get that $1000/mo figure for birth control? Did you mean $100? I don't think it's even that much.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/hea...-pill-4228.htm
***Cost about $15–$50 each month
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:15 PM
 
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Why are we taxpayers responsible for even $1 dollar a month to care for YOUR kids?

Why are we the taxpayers responsible for even $.01 to rebuild and feed and aide foreign countries? I rather feed those here at home.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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Show me evidence of one child starving to death in America (other than by parental abuse) because their parents couldn't afford to feed them.

Show me one instance of this country bankruptcy being the result of feeding the poor. I find it laughable that you all have a problem with the poor here in the U.S, but have absolutely no problem with sending your money to aide those in other countries. If I actually had a choice, not one cent of my hard earned money would leave the U.S.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:43 PM
 
Location: California
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It is that simple. I think human beings should be expected to have more self control and brains than animals that can't control their actions.
You can't think (or not) all you want. It would be that simple if human brains and bodies were machines. They aren't, are they? Didn't think so. Your "perfect world" ideas don't fly and you have to accept it and find alternatives. There has never been a time in history and never will be a time in history when reproduction and sex are "simple..don't do it".

PS: We ARE animals.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:48 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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The whole idea of just don't have sex isn't workable. Ever. EVER....NEXT
You may be right, Ceece, but with all due respect, you live in the Bay Area ... hardly an objective vantage point from which to comment on this topic.
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:04 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I am not a fan of a Welfare state but I think your forget people lose jobs EVERYDAY. People ride the welfare bus for YEARS. I have read articles where people have been on Food Stamps for 15, 20 years.

That was the case with my family....I got WIC for 2 months then I just stopped it altogether. It made me feel like sh*t! I felt like the scum of the earth.

Never again!
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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How is that a deflection? You said your money is paying for these programs, so it's perfectly relevant to point out how LITTLE you are actually contributing - and how this tiny amount (or any amount, really) doesn't give you the right to control anyone's life.

When can we expect conservatives to start practicing what they preach, and actually support life? And for the religious righties, WWJD??
Probably don't have sex unless your willing to take the responsibility of a possible pregnancy. Jesus believed in personal responsibility and taking care of your own. No where does He say, have children and let the village raise them.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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You may be right, Ceece, but with all due respect, you live in the Bay Area ... hardly an objective vantage point from which to comment on this topic.
Yet your vantage point gives you the right to lay judgement upon humanity? I never realized God quit with the floods, four horsemen and locusts and started monitoring C-D.
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Old 02-27-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Common sense and personal responsibility dictates that you do NOT have children when you can't afford the most basic necessities, such as food.
Well, not everyone is in poverty and then decides to have children. Sometimes the poverty comes after the children. And you can't quite put them back.
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