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Old 02-27-2012, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Since the OWS started and Obama’s been pushing to end the Bush cuts for the top 1% and the public at large has been rallying against big banks, bonuses, and bailouts, the Right has taken to accusing the President of instigating class warfare.

The logic is that he’s blaming the woes of the middle class & the poor on the 1% not contributing their fair share. He’s been blaming the budget deficit and resulting fears about our economic stability on the 1% taking advantage of the system. He’s been blaming the 1% for being selfish and lazy and forcing the rest of the country to pick up the slack or go wanting.

Regardless of how true you think the above is, how is that any different than the “class warfare” that Republicans have waged against those on welfare for the last 30 years?

If it’s class warfare to say one group isn’t contributing their fair share, then isn’t it also class warfare to say one group is taking more than their fair share?

If it’s class warfare to blame one group’s hoarding for hurting the country, then isn’t it also class warfare to blame one group’s abuse of the system for hurting the country?

If it’s class warfare to throw out pejoratives like “fat cats” to illustrate the selfishness that’s stopping the country from fixing itself, then isn’t it also class warfare to throw out pejoratives like “welfare queen” to illustrate the same point?

Regardless if the claims are true, the rhetoric is there.
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: NC
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Lets make it fair. Everyone has to contribute the exact same % of their income in taxes.

That way no one can cry (yeah, right)
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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Define "fair".
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:00 PM
 
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Yes, but what leverage do welfare recipients have? Crying foul over the successful people who actually contribute to this country is MUCH different than crying foul over the perpetual suckers who *could* get up off their lazy asses and do something productive but choose not to because the government allows it (and even encourages it).

My full faith and support goes to the successful people of America. The suckers of society have all the sympathy they need from Liberals. They don't need mine.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Yes, but what leverage do welfare recipients have? Crying foul over the successful who actually contribute to this country is MUCH different than crying foul over the perpetual suckers who *could* get up off their lazy asses and do something productive but choose not to because the government allows it.

My support goes to the successful. The suckers of society have all the sympathy then need from Liberals. They don't need mine.
We're not talking about how true the statements are. We're talking about the rhetoric being used to blame one group in the country for the current situation.

Tell me that Republicans haven't spent the last 30 years blaming people on welfare for our budget problems, and that they haven't chosen pejoratives to illustrate the point, and haven't used that issue to whip up their base into a frenzy against that group...
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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Railing on someone who deserves to be railed on is perfectly justified, and that would include both sides. I draw a strong line between a poor person and a welfare queen just as I do between a rich guy and a crony corporatist leech.

The dems are no less hypocritical when it comes to this exact same concept, they just prefer the terminology of "bullying the poor" instead of "class warfare". You know damn well both phrases are thrown around from both sides, neither much more or less than the other.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:05 PM
 
Location: NC
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Define "fair".
Easy, no one is treated differently.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:07 PM
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People are looking for someone to blame. I blame both parties. I feel that the democrats are less likely to check theirselves though.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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People are looking for someone to blame. I blame both parties. I feel that the democrats are less likely to check theirselves though.
I am not looking for someone to blame. It's the Repubs fault! Question completed.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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We're not talking about how true the statements are. We're talking about the rhetoric being used to blame one group in the country for the current situation.

Tell me that Republicans haven't spent the last 30 years blaming people on welfare for our budget problems, and that they haven't chosen pejoratives to illustrate the point, and haven't used that issue to whip up their base into a frenzy against that group...
The GOP certainly has used the rhetoric....i'm sure....although I can't think of a time in my lifetime whereas the Class Warfare rhetoric has ever been so great as it is under Barack Obama.
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