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Old 02-28-2012, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Yooperkat View Post
Israel Can't Trust Obama And His Big Mouth.
Thanks for sharing your personal opinon.

Here is the real reason (from your own link):

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Israeli officials said that if they eventually decide a strike is necessary, they would keep the Americans in the dark to decrease the likelihood that the U.S. would be held responsible for failing to stop Israel's potential attack.
So, they are trying to do us a favor.

They do not need our permission, but anyone with half a brain knows they WILL tell US of such attack, and US will support the mission. It is better to publicly pretend US had no knowledge of it. It is amazing people still believe everythig they read in the papers.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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I agree, but Israel isn't asking for permission.


They fear that Obama will intentionally try to keep Israel from doing something that would keep their people safe.


I can't blame them.
Cant rep you enough
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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Israel Can't Trust Obama And His Big Mouth.
Why should they telegraph their intentions? No, they can't trust this administration, that's been made clear from the start.
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Old 02-28-2012, 05:57 AM
 
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So, they are trying to do us a favor.
That too.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:06 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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There is a reason we have ALLIES. They are other countries we have more in common with, are more united with against evil and disaster. On more than one account, Obama has acted negatively towards some of our Allies.
Allies?

Really?

How many Israeli boots were on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan?

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I believe returning the bust of Winston, which as a gift, was one of the first things he did. Who does that? Not an Allie. It may seem minor but that was the first sign.
I believe you're woefully ignorant of the facts. The bust was a loan, NOT a gift.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Because someone doesn't agree with the US's position on Israel makes them anti-Semitic? That's quite a leap.
Not really reading your previous comment its pretty obvious.

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Israel is the child that no one wanted and the US adopted.

Yes, Israel is the gift to the world that keeps on giving. Or would that be taking????
Yes you didn't flat out state "******* jews and there zionism" but you sure gave that impression though.

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What other countries in the region are thinking to attack Iran?
Pretty much all of them at this point because Iran possessing nuclear weapons is a major threat to them.

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If you are referring to Saudi Arabia, it's considering building nuclear weapons, it is because they perceive Iran as a threat.
The Saudis have flat out stated to US officials that if Iran gets a nuclear weapon they will as well the same goes for other countries in the region. That's not considering getting nuclear weapons that is promising to get nuclear weapons. Which could very well kick off WW3.

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The only country "thinking about atatcking Iran" is Israel. If you have links to support the other countries threatening to attack Iran please provide them.
The US is thinking about attacking Iran and several members of congress have stated support for military action to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, you can google that information yourself. Canada is adopting a hardline stance regarding Iran stating they can't get nuclear weapons. NATO is considering military intervention to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Yes Israel is likely to do so first but that doesn't mean they will be alone in doing so.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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i agree in private Obama will support it, however in public he will condemn Israel,
I think you may have it backwards. Obama would not condemn Israel in public for an attack aimed at protecting itself. In private he most probably would voice the US concerns about doing it without letting the International community sanctions work. In order for those to work, China must be convinced it is not in China's interest to not join in the Sanctions.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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i agree in private Obama will support it, however in public he will condemn Israel,
Behind the locked doors, every US president has supported Israel, while publicly condemning some aspects of Israel policies. Look at the building of the settlements for example. Some of the harshest criticism has been delivered by Republican presidents, like Bush Sr who threatened to cut off all aid to Israel unless they stop expanding the settlements. Guess what? They stopped expanding them.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:22 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The US will know soon enough once Israel asks for help when it is faced with the external and internal backlash, after all there are lots of Muslims within and directly around Israel, too.
Even Mossad people have said there is no point in such an attack, Iran will eventually have those nuclear capabilities, and when attacked before, they will have a record to set straight later on.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:37 AM
 
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I think you may have it backwards. Obama would not condemn Israel in public for an attack aimed at protecting itself. In private he most probably would voice the US concerns about doing it without letting the International community sanctions work. In order for those to work, China must be convinced it is not in China's interest to not join in the Sanctions.

How long do you think Israel might have to wait for China's approval of sanctions to get Iran to back off of it's nuclear intentions?

Sanctions aren't going to work anyway.


Finn_Jarber quoting the linked article:
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Israeli officials said that if they eventually decide a strike is necessary, they would keep the Americans in the dark to decrease the likelihood that the U.S. would be held responsible for failing to stop Israel's potential attack.
Iran will hold the U.S. equally responsible whether we know about it or not. Obama has made things difficult for Israel already. I'm sure that Israel feels like Obama would screw things up again. Yeah, that's my opinion, and I stand by it.


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They do not need our permission, but anyone with half a brain knows they WILL tell US of such attack, and US will support the mission. It is better to publicly pretend US had no knowledge of it. It is amazing people still believe everythig they read in the papers.
Why should we believe that when Israel says it won't tell the U.S. when they would strike Iran, that they really will?

I think it's NOT better to publicly pretend the U.S. had no knowledge of it. Obama is a weakling. And a blabber mouth.

That's why Obama REALLY won't have knowledge of it ahead of time.
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