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Old 02-29-2012, 02:30 PM
 
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A U.S. judge sided with tobacco companies on Wednesday, ruling that regulations requiring large graphic health warnings on cigarette packaging and advertising violate free-speech rights under the U.S. Constitution.

Cigarette makers challenged the U.S. Food and Drug Administration's rule requiring companies to label tobacco products with images of rotting teeth, diseased lungs and other images intended to illustrate the dangers of smoking.
Tobacco health labels violate free speech - Health - Addictions - msnbc.com

I don't like cigarettes at all, but I'm glad to see this. As long as cigarettes are legal, the companies should be able to market them to adults in any way they wish.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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Good point. They are legal.....so this mandate is overstepping bounds. What other types of dangerous actions should we try to graphically implore people to avoid?

1) Bungee chords with a label showing a shattered human head?
2) Machinery/equipment brochures with a severed body parts?
3) Condoms wrappers with genital warts?
4) Where does it stop?

Good decision by the court in my view.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: California
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We have a lot of messed up ideas about free speech..
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: London UK & Florida USA
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Does this mean they have to take signs off like........... May be dangerous to children or not for children under 3 or do not have near flame or highly corrosive or highly flammable on furniture.
Warnings are there for a purpose, even on legal things.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This is one of the things that was a little noticed aspect of the war on tobacco going back to the 1990's. It p****ed all over the First Amendment. I have several Camel and Marlboro T-shirts and caps from back then; the cigarette companies used to give them away, but the practice was banned by President Clinton.

If they can ban that, what else can they ban? Maybe gun ads? Could a President Santorum ban condom ads, or ads for gay bars?
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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There is a warning on my package of japanese snacks...it says (in bold letters): DO NOT EAT THE PACKAGING.

Whew. Close one.

As long as there are lawyers, there will be stupid labeling.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I think the "surgeon general" warning on the side is sufficient. Hell make it move to the front.

But putting pictures of black lungs and things on the front are overboard, IMO. Who doesn't know that smoking is bad for you? I smoked from the time I was 15 until I was about 25, and the whole time I knew it was bad for me. Lots of things are bad for you, and people do them anyway. Whats next, putting a picture of fat albert on happy meals?
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think the "surgeon general" warning on the side is sufficient. Hell make it move to the front.

But putting pictures of black lungs and things on the front are overboard, IMO. Who doesn't know that smoking is bad for you? I smoked from the time I was 15 until I was about 25, and the whole time I knew it was bad for me. Lots of things are bad for you, and people do them anyway. Whats next, putting a picture of fat albert on happy meals?

I watched an old movie (made in the 1940s). In the movie, the characters talked about cigs causing cancer.
No one can tell me an entire generation didn't know (hence the lawsuits).
My friend's grandfather (WWII) said they called them 'coffin nails.'

I like the idea of Fat Albert on happy meals. But people will think a new movie is out or something.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:20 PM
 
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Tobacco health labels violate free speech - Health - Addictions - msnbc.com

I don't like cigarettes at all, but I'm glad to see this. As long as cigarettes are legal, the companies should be able to market them to adults in any way they wish.


Yes this is a violation to free speech but in this context i believe its justified, if you find fault with the Governments efforts to dissuade people from smoking I guess you wont have much to say about footing the bill for the usual long term health consequences of these smokers.
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Old 02-29-2012, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I watched an old movie (made in the 1940s). In the movie, the characters talked about cigs causing cancer.
No one can tell me an entire generation didn't know (hence the lawsuits).
My friend's grandfather (WWII) said they called them 'coffin nails.'

I like the idea of Fat Albert on happy meals. But people will think a new movie is out or something.
King James I (of King James Bible fame) talked about the health risks of tobacco back in the 17th century.
A Counterblaste to Tobacco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

King James noted that smoking was "dangerous to the lungs."
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