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Old 03-02-2012, 01:46 PM
 
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Is it far fetched to think where we may be at a place in the future, where if someone cant afford something, no matter what it could be, that itll be required for someone else to pay for it? Car, tv, cell phone?
Yes, that scenario sounds far fetched to me. Frankly, it sounds a bit paranoid and unreasonable.
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Just transplanted to FL from the N GA mountains
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Aus, I don't totally disagree with you about the balance between federal and state power. The fact of the matter is though we (America) went another way as a result of the Civil War. We're not going to become "these United States" again unless we have another Civil War to unbreak what that war made. I don't want to shoot my fellow Americans, so I don't advocate that. I also believe in dealing with political realities, not fantasies, so I don't indulge in your kind of thinking.
I have to keep believing in the fantasies... the reality is too frightening right now otherwise... wasn't that what you lefties kept telling us last time... hope and change?
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Old 03-02-2012, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Its religious values and specific to their place of business. No one is asking BC to be outlawed. Enough with that nonsense.

No more debating the bc issue specifically, not in this thread. I hate circles and will not bother trying to deal with that.

Now, tell me where your limit is?
Do they want to be treated as a business, or a religious institution? Confused souls, they are, aren't they? Business making money in the name of God, I assume.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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To me the only thing we have the rights to here in the US are those found in the Bill of Rights,
Including this part of the Bill of Rights?

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Amendment 9

The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
For those who didn't know it was in there, it means, "There are some rights listed in the Constitution (including its amendments). But that doesn't mean they are the only rights the people have."

Or in more modern language:
"Aus10 is full of it. The rights listed in the Constitution, are NOT the only ones that people have."

That Bill of Rights?
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Access to Birth Control is part of the ACA, you know the ACA, which is Law and passed about 2 yrs ago. How could anyone be unaware of this being part of it.
They're not "unaware" of it. They just know it's unconstitutional, and so we don't have to pay any attention to it.

Fortunately, government saying it's a right, doesn't make it a right.

True for many facets of our government as presently run by the liberal fanatics.... even if they disagree with it.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: California
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Nobody would be thinking about BC if it hadn't been turend into a political football. Nobody. Everyone looks like a fool.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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Nobody would be thinking about BC if it hadn't been turend into a political football. Nobody. Everyone looks like a fool.
Remind us all who did that? You can start with Stephanofolous or however his name is spelled but dont think he came up with that question on his own. You know where this started and why. Thank him. Change and hope? This man never intended to help clean up DC and politics, he intended to make the atmosphere worse and purposely. And he did so in this case.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:37 PM
 
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Yes, that scenario sounds far fetched to me. Frankly, it sounds a bit paranoid and unreasonable.
Reallly? We are to the point where "safe" sexual activities are now covered, and you think that is far fetched?
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:38 PM
 
Location: California
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Remind us all who did that? You can start with Stephanofolous or however his name is spelled but dont think he came up with that question on his own. You know where this started and why. Thank him. Change and hope? This man never intended to help clean up DC and politics, he intended to make the atmosphere worse and purposely. And he did so in this case.
It was the "freedom of religion" crowd if I remember correctly. Before that is was a private health issue. Religion has no place in the conversation.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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