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What does that even mean? You're the one using propaganda YouTube videos as "research," not me.
Matter of fact, I haven't even debated this issue from a research or educational/historical standpoint... I've only stated my opinions, and never claimed facts of any kind. Nice try, though.
Israel has done nothing but cause trouble since it's creation in 1948.
This statement is completely wrong. Israel has given the world technology (which I am sure you use in your daily life), medical advances and humanitarian aid in many world disasters.
Begs the question: have they ever annoyed the USA more?
Is this just a chance for you to rant against Israel, or have you got a scale for annoying countries. I should think that South Korea's near total dependence on our good graces for its continued existence makes it fairly annoying. What about France? We bailed them out of two world wars and a pretty impressive mess in Vietnam.
Surely there must be other countries that "annoy" the United States. (Let's just hope this is a one-way deal and we don't annoy anyone else!)
Is this just a chance for you to rant against Israel, or have you got a scale for annoying countries. I should think that South Korea's near total dependence on our good graces for its continued existence makes it fairly annoying. What about France? We bailed them out of two world wars and a pretty impressive mess in Vietnam.
We should probably get out of Korea. We didn't "bail out" France in Vietnam; they took the hint and left. We repeated their mistake. We shouldn't have been involved in either World War, but those aren't still going on and the Arab-Israeli conflict is.
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Surely there must be other countries that "annoy" the United States. (Let's just hope this is a one-way deal and we don't annoy anyone else!)
How about resolving to be good members of the world community and not annoy anyone else?
1. Are you aware that the Disputed Territories never belonged to the “Palestinians” and only came into Israeli possession as a result of the 1967 six day war in which Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all massed forces at Israel’s border in order to “push the Jews into the sea”. The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land. Do you agree that if the Arabs don’t want to lose territory to Israel, then they shouldn’t start wars? Do you agree that there is justice that Israel, who as far back as 1948 has always sought peace with her far larger neighbors, should live in prosperity – making the desert bloom – while the residents of 19 adjacent Arab countries who are blessed with far more land as well as oil wealth live in their own feces?
Arabs "live in their own feces"? You could've fooled me. 19 "adjacent" Arab countries? Last I checked there were 4. Israel always sought peace? Does that include annihilating entire neighborhoods in Beirut? (Which was the seed that spawned the 9/11 plot, by Osama bin Laden's own admission.)
The claim that Palestine never "belonged to the Palestinians" is false. The Palestinians did not have national independence, but to say the land didn't belong to them is outrageous. (Nobody is crazy enough to say America didn't "belong to" Americans when we were still colonized.) Jews had title to about 8% of the land at the time of partition.
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2. Did you know that the “Palestinians” could have had their own country as far back as 1948 had they accepted the UN sponsored partition plan which gave Israel AND the Palestinians a countries of their own on land which Jews had lived on for thousands of years before Mohammed ever had a wet dream about virgins? The Arabs rejected the UN offer and went to war with the infant Israeli nation. The Arabs lost and have been whining about it ever since. Do you agree this is like a murderer who kills his parents and asks for special treatment since he is now an orphan?
The Palestinians rejected a plan that gave them, a 70% majority, 45% of their own country. Anyone else would've rejected it as well. Bringing "Mohammed" into the issue is pure ignorance--Mohammed has nothing whatsoever to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict. (The PLO was founded by secular socialists and supported by almost all of Palestine's significant Christian minority.)
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3. Can you tell us ANY Arab country which offers Jews the right to be citizens, vote, own property, businesses, be a part of the government or have ANY of the rights which Israeli Arabs enjoy? Any Arab country which gives those rights to Christians? How about to other Arabs? Wouldn’t you just LOVE to be a citizen of Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Iran, or Syria?
Iran has a Jewish member of parliament. Iraq had a large Christian population until Bush's invasion and handing over the country to theocrats (Tariq Aziz was a Christian; granted he was probably only Hussein's second-in-command as an insurance policy against assassination); it has been decimated since 2003. Lebanon's Christian militia have joined forces with Hezbollah (http://www.mideastmonitor.org/issues/0602/0602_3.htm - broken link) against Israeli domination.
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4. Since as many Jews (approximately 850,000) were kicked out of Arab countries as were Arabs who left present day Israel (despite being literally begged to stay), why should Arabs be permitted to return to Israel if Jews aren’t allowed to set foot in Arab countries? Can you explain why Arabs can worship freely in Israel but Jews would certainly be hung from street lamps after having their intestines devoured by an Arab mob if they so much as entered an Arab country?
Begged to stay? LOL. Not sure where you get that information. Maybe the Jews were "begged to stay" in Poland too...anyway, Israel considers all Jewish refugee claims from Arab countries to still be ongoing and active. In 1948, there were close to a million Jews living in Arab countries without being "hung from street lamps", etc. etc. What changed that? Israel!
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5. Israel resettled and absorbed all of the Jews from Arab countries who wished to become Israelis. Why haven’t any Arab countries offered to resettle Arabs who were displaced from Israel, leaving them to rot for 60 years in squalid refugee camps? And why are those refugee camps still there? Could it be that the billions of dollars that the UNWRA has sent there goes to terrorist groups like Hamas, Islamic Jihad, El Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, or Hezbollah? How did Yassir Arafat achieve his $300 million in wealth? Why aren’t these funds distributed for humanitarian use?
Some countries have resettled Palestinians. Ba'athist Iraq was probably the most generous. As for Yassir Arafat's wealth, it was a lot more than $300 million, but still would not have been enough to keep the territories running for more than a month or so.
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6. Did you know that the Arabs in the disputed territories (conquered by Israel in the 1967 war which was started by Arabs) and who are not Israelis already have two countries right now? And that they are called Egypt and Jordan?
Bilge.
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7. If your complaint is about the security fence which Israel is finally building in the Disputed Territories, are you aware that it is built solely to keep the “brave” Arab terrorists out so that they can no longer self detonate on buses, in dining halls or pizzerias and kill Jewish grandmothers and schoolchildren? Why are the Arabs so brave when they target unarmed civilians but even when they outnumber their opponents they get their sandy asses kicked all the way to Mecca when they are faced with Jewish soldiers? Why do Arab soldiers make the French look like super heroes?
Sandy asses? Do I even have to answer this?
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8. Please explain why you are so concerned about Arabs, who possess 99% of the land in this region and are in control of the world’s greatest natural resource, which literally flows out of the ground? Can’t their brother Muslims offer some of the surplus land and nature’s riches to the “Palestinians”? Or is it true that Arabs are willing to die right down to the last “Palestinian”?
Do you know that there is a difference between "Arab" and "Muslim"? Or did you miss that fifth-grade geography lesson?
Not going to beat my head against a wall by going on and on with the same propaganda I've been reading since before the first intifada, but I did report this post for its detestable racism.
This statement is completely wrong. Israel has given the world technology (which I am sure you use in your daily life), medical advances and humanitarian aid in many world disasters.
Name a few. By the way, paid for with U.S. taxpayer dollars.
Name a few. By the way, paid for with U.S. taxpayer dollars.
ICQ the first messenger program was invented by Israelis.
Israeli scientists have proven that an enzyme can delay development of Lou Gehrig's disease.
Israelis send a field medical hospital to Haiti after the earthquake there, helped in Japan after the earthquake and tsunami there and in recent news have offered assistance to help the Syrian people that are being hurt by the current regime.
These are just a few examples and you can find many more if you google them and not everything that Israel does is paid by US taxpayers dollars.
Jews in Israel are from all over the world, and intermixed. Yes, one can say that you look Israeli even though it's not an ethnic group.
Judaism is a religion and an ethnicity. So Israeli isn't an ethnicity but Jew is.
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Those "Polish and Russian" chicks you point out are in fact not Polish or Russian at all, they are Jews whose ancestors lived in the lands that are now Russia and Poland (which didn't even exist back then either---- read a history book!) for decades because they were kicked out of the land that is now Israel by the Romans.
And nearly half to the majority of Jews living in Israel are in fact Sephardi, coming from Arab countries (some bordering Israel).
There are even many Israelis who never left the area.
And of course, the 22% of the population that is Arab.
So you clearly know NOTHING about what Israelis are or the ethnic composition of the country.
So I'll repeat what you said earlier.....
Respond with something intelligent or don't respond at all.
Moving on.
Considering the modes of transportation 2000 years ago why would anyone who is kicked out of Palestine trek all the way to Russia? It doesn't even sound plausible.
But when the element of a fundamentalist religion, or even a secular substitute like Nazisim (are you listening -- Serbia? or even French Quebec?) then the potential for abuse multiplies.
Hmm... how many deaths have been attributable to this in Quebec in the last 30 or 40 years?
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