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Old 03-06-2012, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Her REACTIONARY response to excesses imported to America only served to blind her to the actual meaning of America. She never knew what we were or what made us worthy of praise (as a collective nation).

She is, and has been utilized, as an assault on collectivism, on the family, and on anyone (infants to elderly) who fails to worship themselves in her world view. Every policy that's been influenced by her philosophy leaves children unguarded and leaves all of womankind upholding all of civilization on her back while mankind is encouraged to masturbate/ aspiring to be a pimp.

<Alleged> conservative minds are poisoned against themselves and they're blaming all others for their illness as a 'vast left wing conspiracy'. Their pimps have conspired against them. Not the rest of us.
Gosh, harborlady, that has to be one of the most hyperbolic and paranoid posts I've read in a long time, outside of the various conspiracy theory threads.

Are you going for an award or something?
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Ayn Rand is generally "discovered" during one's freshman year of college and dismissed as credible by one's junior year.
I agree.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:16 PM
 
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I think Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin would have agreed with her writings. The "actual meaning of America" has morphed from one of accountability and limited government to one of entitlement and a nanny state. Rand is quite consistent with the founding fathers.
You tell yourself that, but you don't want the criticism of Jefferson to ever stain your hero. Jefferson is factually my fave pres. However, his ignorance of economics made him the victim of it. See?

We can prefer to keep our myopic world view on a small scale to our peril, or we can open our eyes fully from a mountain view about the grander scheme of life and liberty. That should be the point of Federal policy. Not to micromanage local grievances. However, when local nonsense is self fulfilling prophecy and circular file shooting matches-- it's a good thing Federal authority stepped in when white republicans were being lynched by hate mobs in the little ole south during reign of terror.

I'm not here to complain that any one character in history failed to be Jesus for humanity. There is only one Jesus. The rest of us are mortals, flawed, imperfect, who have puzzle pieces to offer the world for it's betterment. Sometimes, those puzzle pieces are manifestly unsound. Sometimes they're a good idea abused unmercifully by malevolent people. Jim Jones was not religious, and faithful to nothing but his personal delusion. Congressman Leo Ryan paid for Jim Jones delusion with his life along with the deluded individuals in that cult.

The self worshiping cult of Ayn Rand has no place in any valid religion or in the conservative camp.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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Did any of you *******s bother to watch that whole Mike Wallace interview and not just the stupid little cut and paste video posted by the OP whole obviously doesn't have the intellectual capacity to understand Ayn's thought processes?

Oh yeah she believes in homosexual freedom and is pro-abortion. Learnt that in the late 1970's.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:19 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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You tell yourself that, but you don't want the criticism of Jefferson to ever stain your hero. Jefferson is factually my fave pres. However, his ignorance of economics made him the victim of it. See?

We can prefer to keep our myopic world view on a small scale to our peril, or we can open our eyes fully from a mountain view about the grander scheme of life and liberty. That should be the point of Federal policy. Not to micromanage local grievances. However, when local nonsense is self fulfilling prophecy and circular file shooting matches-- it's a good thing Federal authority stepped in when white republicans were being lynched by hate mobs in the little ole south during reign of terror.

I'm not here to complain that any one character in history failed to be Jesus for humanity. There is only one Jesus. The rest of us are mortals, flawed, imperfect, who have puzzle pieces to offer the world for it's betterment. Sometimes, those puzzle pieces are manifestly unsound. Sometimes they're a good idea abused unmercifully by malevolent people. Jim Jones was not religious, and faithful to nothing but his personal delusion. Congressman Leo Ryan paid for Jim Jones delusion with his life along with the deluded individuals in that cult.

The self worshiping cult of Ayn Rand has no place in any valid religion or in the conservative camp.
I think you just won this little talk
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Did any of you *******s bother to watch that whole Mike Wallace interview and not just the stupid little cut and paste video posted by the OP whole obviously doesn't have the intellectual capacity to understand Ayn's thought processes?

Oh yeah she believes in homosexual freedom and is pro-abortion. Learnt that in the late 1970's.
This post sounds really intelligent.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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Ayn Rand encouraged man to reach for the best within himself and live a heroic life.
She encouraged man to worship himself and love his career and his truck more than his family and his very country.

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Modern day collectivism discourages that.
If you're so opposed to collectivism you won't be pan handling for my vote, now will you?

You'll have to turn off the internet, rip your phone off the wall, including the power grid feeding your house, and refrain from driving on highways. This scammer argument worshiping anarchy and might makes right doesn't cut it with me. Walk your talk for a refreshing change. Wipe your own behind and get off my porch.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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This post sounds really intelligent.

Well did you?

Do you actually understand the concepts to which she is espousing in that interview?
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:23 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Well did you?

Do you actually understand the concepts to which she is espousing in that interview?
You guys on the right just keep it up Thanks for all the help.
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Old 03-06-2012, 05:24 PM
 
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We must bow to the collective. The collective is more important than the individual. Well, that is clearly what those who disagree with her think.
Yes, declare war on principles wherever they may reside. Principles are 'collectivism'. Slay them immediately. Abolish the alphabet. More collectivism!!! It's a vast conspiracy against your right to self worship cult!!!
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