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How is it that we require kids to attend driver's ed classes (complete with textbooks full of instructions and facts, as well as pass written tests), then log so many hours in behind-the-wheel training with a licensed driver, before giving them a driver's license...but when it comes to their own bodies, all we do is give them misinformation and tell them not to use it? Where is the logic in that?
The reason why sex ed in school is important (good, comprehensive sex ed made of facts; not "BIRTH CONTROL DOESN'T WORK EVER! CONDOMS HAVE A 99% FAIL RATE!!! IF YOU HAVE SEX, YOU DIE AND THEN BURN IN HELL!!!!!!!" kind of nonsense that gets passed in some of these abstinence only programs)- first, not all parents are comfortable talking about this to their kids, not all parents WILL talk to their kids about this, and these kids deserve to get truthful information from reliable sources despite their parents' failings. Second, not all parents have all the answers. A good sex ed program will cover all the bases- body parts, how they're supposed to function, what's normal (and what's not, and when you should see a doctor), different kinds of birth control and how they work, and how to decide. Not all parents are going to have access to all that info, nor will they know where to turn to get it (and the internet is full of propaganda-style sites with a lot of misleading and blatantly false info; not everyone is capable of the critical thinking it takes to discern a source's credibility).
Arming kids with information isn't going to turn them into rampant sex maniacs, any more than giving kids information about how to prevent the common cold is going to turn them into crazed handwashers who Lysol everything in their path. It's teaching them to take control of an aspect of their own health. Knowledge is power, and to not teach people how to be responsible about their own body is criminal.
Then it seems like your son went to school w/ a bunch of spoiled airheads w. no concept of the real world. If they did, the thought of financially supporting another person would be enough motivation to avoid getting pregnant.
That's what I was thinking too. There must be enclaves where people like this (the kids AND parents) congregate or something.
I've known teens who had abortions and teens who had babies and it was a big deal no matter how you cut it. An abortion isn't easy, simple or fun. We can't even get people to the dentist regularly for cleaning, can't get women to have their annual PAP or mammogram, so I'm not worried about people taking abortion lightly and doing it "whenever".
There are always going to be idiots running around though and for them I'd rather not see them reproduce anyway. I'm almost thinking someone who would have 3 abortions in 4 years was looking to get a guy to commit but kept failing, hence the abortions. People do weird stuff like that.
Why? Should biology be taught at home? How about math? There's a key word in Sex Ed that points you to where it should be taught.
but the sex Ed that liberals seem to want taught, should not be taught in public schools in the 1st place.
home is where it should be taught, information should also be available in schools, but only if the parents are informed of the content that would be given to their children and given the option of opting out.
but the sex Ed that liberals seem to want taught, should not be taught in public schools in the 1st place.
home is where it should be taught, information should also be available in schools, but only if the parents are informed of the content that would be given to their children and given the option of opting out.
I don't know what you think "liberals" want taught since there is no one way people think about this topic (even liberals) but the way it works is going to come up no matter how you slice it. I don't think there needs to be a great deal of discussion on everything sexual, but basic function and pregnancy and what not is just a matter of fact.
I don't know what you think "liberals" want taught since there is no one way people think about this topic (even liberals) but the way it works is going to come up no matter how you slice it. I don't think there needs to be a great deal of discussion on everything sexual, but basic function and pregnancy and what not is just a matter of fact.
basic function and pregnancy is fine with me, everything else should be left to the parents.
home is where it should be taught, information should also be available in schools, but only if the parents are informed of the content that would be given to their children and given the option of opting out.
Well, actually... In Utah, before the passage of this utterly bone-headed law, Sex Ed (including contraception) was given in school, with the clear stipulation that parents could opt out. But of course, that won't do it for the moral minority meddlers - it's not enough that their own pristine snowflakes be kept in ignorance, everybody else damn well better be, too.
So we get the proven-to-fail abstinence-only education for those kids who are without a robust family support system. Depriving those who are most in need - it seems a core Republican value these days.
Well, actually... In Utah, before the passage of this utterly bone-headed law, Sex Ed (including contraception) was given in school, with the clear stipulation that parents could opt out. But of course, that won't do it for the moral minority meddlers - it's not enough that their own pristine snowflakes be kept in ignorance, everybody else damn well better be, too.
So we get the proven-to-fail abstinence-only education for those kids who are without a robust family support system. Depriving those who are most in need - it seems a core Republican value these days.
Don't you think parents know best what they want for their kids ?
If the majority want this and they live in another state, then who are you to tell them they are "wrong" ?
And we've had this type of sex ed for a number of years in the school and the US still leads in teen pregnancy rates worldwide (even though it's decreased in the US over the years).
So maybe the free-wheeling sex with education and access to contraceptives isn't working out so well ?
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Don't you think parents know best what they want for their kids ?
You've never encountered a bad, negligent or basically uninterested parent? Or, for that matter, an ignorant one? I've encountered people whose basic embarrassment would keep them from discussing sex with their children.
The children with interested and engaged parents are not at a high risk. Never were. The rest, according to the Utah legislation, will now be left to figure it out on their own. S.cks to be them, I guess.
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If the majority want this and they live in another state, then who are you to tell them they are "wrong" ?
Somebody has to be the voice of reason. If the goal is to reduce teen pregnancies, then abstinence-only is the wrong way to go. Then again, I'm not sure the moral busybodies really care about that figure. What fun is moral superiority without a bit of ****-shaming?
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And we've had this type of sex ed for a number of years in the school and the US still leads in teen pregnancy rates worldwide (even though it's decreased in the US over the years).
So, correlation.
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So maybe the free-wheeling sex with education and access to contraceptives isn't working out so well ?
Who makes better choices: Kids who are informed, or kids who aren't? Just a thought, but if you want teen pregnancy reduced to European levels, perhaps it might be worth looking into what Europeans are doing?
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