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Old 03-08-2012, 08:23 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Personhood amendments in 12 states that declare life at the moment of fertilization, and make abortion a crime.
And which technically would also outlaw the IUD.

But the dollars I pay into my health insurance premiums help guys like Limbuagh get a ****-**. Sure gents, whatever you need to stay "healthy."
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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And that's the typical BS answer. In reality it doesn't work that way.
Most people can only get the insurance their employer offers. I used to work for a company that had 12 employees. What do you THINK my options were? What do you think my options were on the private market with a kid who has asthma and me having a thyroid cancer diagnosis 20 years ago.


If your suggestions actually worked: i.e., anyone could go out in the private market and buy insurance that didn't cost them $3000 a month which actually covered something, then you'd have a point.

In this country, we aren't there yet. It's NOT an option for many people.
Typical entitlement rhetoric.

If people can't afford to pay for important things because their wage is low they should try getting a better job. If health insurance is so important for some people why don't they try to find an employer with a really good health insurance plan? So instead they whine to daddy federal govt. because they are too ****ing lazy.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Personhood amendments in 12 states that declare life at the moment of fertilization, and make abortion a crime. They're trying to force the SCOTUS to take on a challenge to Roe.
What do you fear ? All I hear is that there is a small fringe radical right that want this.

Amendments to state constitutions are put to the voters.
If the majority of voters are pro-choice, pro-abortion as most say, then there is nothing to fear.

What do you fear ? Do you think ultra-right religious radicals are the majority ?
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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What do you fear ? All I hear is that there is a small fringe radical right that want this.

Amendments to state constitutions are put to the voters.
If the majority of voters are pro-choice, pro-abortion as most say, then there is nothing to fear.

What do you fear ? Do you think ultra-right religious radicals are the majority ?
Apparently a tyranny of majority is a good thing as long as they agree with one's personal beliefs.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:31 AM
 
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And who is proposing reversing abortion ?
A woman can still go out and have abortions, as many as she wants.

Which Repub Presidential candidate is proposing reversing the abortion ruling that is scaring you so much ?

BC is covered by insurance..just not 100%. You had the copay before..that is the issue now.
Yet is wasn't an issue before Obamacare.
Really? Not all insurance plans cover birth control at all. Why do you think they do?
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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And which technically would also outlaw the IUD.

But the dollars I pay into my health insurance premiums help guys like Limbuagh get a ****-**. Sure gents, whatever you need to stay "healthy."
And the pill. Although the pill primarily works by preventing fertilization, it also prevents implantation of a fertilized egg if one slips by.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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Typical entitlement rhetoric.

If people can't afford to pay for important things because their wage is low they should try getting a better job. If health insurance is so important for some people why don't they try to find an employer with a really good health insurance plan? So instead they whine to daddy federal govt. because they are too ****ing lazy.
Entitlement? I'm not asking for ANYTHING for free? I, and many other people, want access to a variety of plans that don't cost $20,000 a year. Even on a great salary, that's hard to pay.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:34 AM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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It's not a matter of fear, the issue is that the GOP/Conservatives are allowing themselves to be led around by the nose by these ultra right religious radicals. And look at Rick (having a baby by a rapist is a gift from God) Santorum.

Until or unless the GOP/Conservatives shake off these nutcases, the general opinion of them in the minds of many women is that if allowed into power, they will strip away as much of women's rights as they can get away with.

I'm sure you are old enough to remember that the fight FOR women's rights was always against the GOP/Conservatives.

Couple that with the obstructionist politics of the past three years, lack of leadership, the clown parade currently offered up for the office of POTUS, and no economic plan other than that latest variation of "let's try trickle-down again since it worked so well for St Ronnie" (never mind that the world changed radically after 1989) and there is no compelling reason to vote GOP.
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Really? Not all insurance plans cover birth control at all. Why do you think they do?
Why are you so worried about what OTHER people have or haven't in their coverage ?

If maternity coverage was important to me then I would find a job whose insurance covered it. Having a baby is pretty expensive these days.

If BC coverage was important to me then I would find a job whose insurance covered it. But BC is not that expensive so I wouldn't and would just go to Planned Parenthood and buy the pill outright each month. Buying the pill is not that expensive.

Some people let their emotions get the better of them and ride an issue past the point of sanity "just because their guy says it's good".


I wish folks were this outraged over lacking senior medical coverage..like hearing aids, pacemakers, high blood pressure/heart medications that cost them hundreds per month while they are on fixed income.
No one seems to care about that but damn..give those young folks free BC .
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Old 03-08-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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And who is proposing reversing abortion ? Every single republican politician out there.
A woman can still go out and have abortions, as many as she wants. Not for long if Republicans have their way. That is why I will never vote for a Republican....in any election.

Which Repub Presidential candidate is proposing reversing the abortion ruling that is scaring you so much ? All of the Republican candidates are in favor of banning abortion.....and would appoint justices to the Supreme Court who think likewise.

BC is covered by insurance..just not 100%. You had the copay before..that is the issue now.
Yet is wasn't an issue before Obamacare.
I will ask you for the THIRD time.

WHY SHOULD VIAGRA BE COVERED AND NOT BC?

{scared to answer or what?}
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