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Old 03-08-2012, 01:38 PM
 
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look, you can keep coming up with all the excuses to justify it. I know want to believe racism doesn't exist, but it was racism that led to this situation.

don't be obtuse, we know racism exists. The thing is, we aren't idiots who imply EVERY incident is racially motivated. People who do such are racists themselves.

 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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I suspect he has not yet been arrested because they are building a case.
The suspect was wrong to confront the kid himself but I wonder if that was because he was studying criminal justice and had a misplaced sense of power?
I didn't realize you had to build a case before you arrest someone
 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Reality
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And that's all he had to do.
According to who, you? There has to be a reason he went outside of his home and none of us know that reason (except of course for our friend Mr. Cleo who knows exactly what every single white person is thinking at any given moment in time).
 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:39 PM
 
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You mean before he confronted the kid. If he thought it was a dangerous situation, why did he inject himself in it? The guy went looking for trouble. It got out of hand, I think the cops realize this and feel bad for the guy.

Good post. The man could have avoided any confrontation by staying in his house. There was no threat. A suspicious looking person is not a threat.
 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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Folks, try to keep in mind that a family lost their son. Watch the video, it will break your heart listening to his father.
 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:40 PM
 
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don't be obtuse, we know racism exists. The thing is, we aren't idiots who imply EVERY incident is racially motivated. People who do such are racists themselves.
I honestly don't know if this was raciall motivated as I don't know anyting about the shooter. What I do know is the posting history of some members and i believe their conclusions are racially motivated.
 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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The part in red. Pure conjecture on your part, and nothing but. It may have happened that way. But there are dozens of other ways it may have gone down. According to at least one witness, there was a physical altercation that had the young man beating up the watch captain who eventually shot him. I recommend we wait for more facts before we make any decisions or judgments.
I thought there was only a 2 minute time gap between the first 911 call and the second regarding the fight?

I'm as logical as the next person but it does seem like there has to be a catalyst between being in the car calling the police and being out of the car getting beat up...especially since he shouldn't have confronted the kid in the first place.
 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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And then it would confirm the belief that the kid was a hoodlum thief who deserved it? See, you don't get to use one stereotype and then dismiss the others.

Since you are condemning without verification, then I guess we can do the same and say the kid being shot was a service to the neighborhood because he was a drug using, thief, robber, rapist, and gang member. I mean, since we are going to apply stereotypes right?

You destroy any legitimacy to your position when you "assume" such is the cause.
If that officer believed that, than I can call him racist and that this killing was racially motivated. He based his decision of a stereotype, i'm basing mine of fact. That is the difference. I'm not using a stereotype, the officer was. That is my position.
 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:42 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Just another responsible, law-abiding gun owner. It's just a tool used to defend your self, family and home....

So where are the holier-than-thou gun supporters telling me how responsible gun owners are? "Only criminals kill illegally with guns..." Blah, Blah...
He could have easily ran the dude over.
 
Old 03-08-2012, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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I'm not even suspicious. I can figure out what happened. He saw a black kid and assumed he didn't belong there and was up to no good. He decided to confront him and things got out of hand and shot him.
No, you can GUESS and FANTASIZE about what happened. And there is a chance you have it right. But at the moment there are absolutely no facts to support your theory. None to disprove it either, which is why I say wait until we learn more before calling for some vigilante to go kill this watch captain, as someone else in the thread has done.
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