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Old 03-08-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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Just keeps coming. Links to bill are in article.

Bill would create partnership between NSA and U.S. corporations | The Raw Story

H.R.3523: Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:27 PM
 
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Interesting trend that seems consistent is govt and corporate profits at your expense. State of Fl reportedly made about 65mil, recently, I believe, in selling citizen information after coercing your life history out of you through the DMV. Makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside.
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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These humorous quotes are funny. These are from an administration gone by, however, they seem so "timeless".

NSA Wiretapping Jokes

"I got a call last night during dinner from Verizon asking me if I was happy with my long distance surveillance." --Bill Maher

"Instead of the NSA recording conversations, this time they just gathered information about the calls: the time, the length and the phone numbers. In other words, while the government does know you called The Gay Teen Bondage Chatline at 1:45 a.m. for 7 minutes at a time, what you discussed... that's your business." --Jon Stewart

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Old 03-09-2012, 06:25 PM
 
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Brave New World vs 1984....
Even Huxley, author of Brave New World, thought 1984 was more realistic of our future.

dated 1949....
Letters of Note: 1984 v. Brave New World
"..the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience. In other words, I feel that the nightmare of Nineteen Eighty-Four is destined to modulate into the nightmare of a world having more resemblance to that which I imagined in Brave New World."
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Old 03-09-2012, 06:47 PM
 
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Brave New World vs 1984....
Even Huxley, author of Brave New World, thought 1984 was more realistic of our future.

dated 1949....
Letters of Note: 1984 v. Brave New World
"..the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging and kicking them into obedience. In other words, I feel that the nightmare of Nineteen Eighty-Four is destined to modulate into the nightmare of a world having more resemblance to that which I imagined in Brave New World."
Yeah well "Orwell" had some interesting acquaintances. It's also interesting to note "lust for power" because clearly this is indicative of those who deep down have a "powerless" feeling.

There clearly are those who continually "seek" so-called "power" because of their own innate feeling of lack.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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From your link, " to help safeguard American corporations from espionage and cyber crime by allowing the NSA and other federal spy agencies to work directly with large corporate players,"


I take it you don't think the gov't should warn a company when they find someone trying to hack into their systems.

I see it compared to your neighbor sees someone breaking into your house and you are asleep. In your case that neighbor shouldn't call you and warn you.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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From your link, " to help safeguard American corporations from espionage and cyber crime by allowing the NSA and other federal spy agencies to work directly with large corporate players,"


I take it you don't think the gov't should warn a company when they find someone trying to hack into their systems.

I see it compared to your neighbor sees someone breaking into your house and you are asleep. In your case that neighbor shouldn't call you and warn you.
If you see something you should report it.

If I am in my house or yard and see such yeah, but if I am listening on their phone, in their house, computer or personal email uninvited then I think we have different issues.
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Old 03-09-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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Dang good subject you brought to the table! thank you...

The NSA is known to have chosen San Antonio for its gigantic, Data Mining Center after MSN chose it because the trade magazine said that NSA works "off of" MSN or something like that! Hmmm...that's without the law, and speaks volumes. Most likely, every email in hotmail is sitting in MSN's center in San Antone, and NSA? probably every one of our credit card transactions, our phone calls and most of what we buy, work for, post online, and no telling what else.

Dig THIS article about it and the picture of the secure, huge site.

San Antonio Current - NEWS+FEATURES: The panopticon economy
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:02 PM
 
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Dang good subject you brought to the table! thank you...

The NSA is known to have chosen San Antonio for its gigantic, Data Mining Center after MSN chose it because the trade magazine said that NSA works "off of" MSN or something like that! Hmmm...that's without the law, and speaks volumes. Most likely, every email in hotmail is sitting in MSN's center in San Antone, and NSA? probably every one of our credit card transactions, our phone calls and most of what we buy, work for, post online, and no telling what else.

Dig THIS article about it and the picture of the secure, huge site.

San Antonio Current - NEWS+FEATURES: The panopticon economy
Yeah there has been a interesting trend lately.

Does The Cybersecurity Act Of 2012 Mark The Beginning Of The War On Cyber-terrorism? - Forbes

H.R. 1981 Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
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