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Old 03-13-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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There are many fungis which live in the soil that form myccorhizal relationships with the plants that live in that same soil. They have evolved together with the plant's roots to form symbiotic relationships which are a tremendous benefit to the plants. They aid in water and nutrient uptake, making for more vigorous and drought resistant plants. They also can act as an 'innoculent' for the platn aiding in disease resistance. Organic farmers know this and use it to their great benefit. I myself grow rare species of tropical carnivorous plants from around the world, and have found these soil-borne fungis are necessary for these plants grow.

These soil organsisms are critically important to the ecosystem, and wanton destruction of them will have far-reaching consequences. Plants and these organsisms evolved together for a reason. That people are blowing this off as no big deal is mind-boggling. Also, it's not an alex jones article. Check the sources. Don't disregard the info simply because he linked it.

For a little background here's a wiki with a bit of info on these organisms: Mycorrhiza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:16 PM
 
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Agent Orange (self explanatory), rGBH growth hormones that cause prostate, breast, lung cancer?

for a start.
agent orange was an herbicide, so 'lethally intending' to kill plants is indeed self-explanatory on that basis. there is no clear causal relationship between rBGH vs. prostate, lung, or breast cancer.



now, back to your OP.

how does a decrease in the numbers of three bacterial species in soil equate to the soil 'dying'? do you have any idea how many total bacterial species are generally present in a gram of soil?

how important are these 3 species to soil fertility as it applies to crops?
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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There are many fungis which live in the soil that form myccorhizal relationships with the plants that live in that same soil. They have evolved together with the plant's roots to form symbiotic relationships which are a tremendous benefit to the plants. They aid in water and nutrient uptake, making for more vigorous and drought resistant plants. They also can act as an 'innoculent' for the platn aiding in disease resistance. Organic farmers know this and use it to their great benefit. I myself grow rare species of tropical carnivorous plants from around the world, and have found these soil-borne fungis are necessary for these plants grow.

These soil organsisms are critically important to the ecosystem, and wanton destruction of them will have far-reaching consequences. Plants and these organsisms evolved together for a reason. That people are blowing this off as no big deal is mind-boggling. Also, it's not an alex jones article. Check the sources. Don't disregard the info simply because he linked it.

For a little background here's a wiki with a bit of info on these organisms: Mycorrhiza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
the OP's article doesn't make any claims regarding the effects of roundup/glyphosate on soil fungi.
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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the OP's article doesn't make any claims regarding the effects of roundup/glyphosate on soil fungi.
See link on post #39
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Yep!

It's called Biblical Prophecy....and it's coming to a doorstep near you.

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Old 03-13-2012, 06:24 PM
 
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agent orange was an herbicide, so 'lethally intending' to kill plants is indeed self-explanatory on that basis. there is no clear causal relationship between rBGH vs. prostate, lung, or breast cancer.

How'd it work out for the thousands of military guinea pigs?

Otherwise known as American Patriots.

One of our combine operators has more health problems from Agent Orange than i can list. He is actually completely disabled and works the farm to stay sane.
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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Star Trek: The Inner Light - YouTube

First thing I thought of. What a beautiful melody.
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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There are many fungis which live in the soil that form myccorhizal relationships with the plants that live in that same soil. They have evolved together with the plant's roots to form symbiotic relationships which are a tremendous benefit to the plants. They aid in water and nutrient uptake, making for more vigorous and drought resistant plants. They also can act as an 'innoculent' for the platn aiding in disease resistance. Organic farmers know this and use it to their great benefit. I myself grow rare species of tropical carnivorous plants from around the world, and have found these soil-borne fungis are necessary for these plants grow.

These soil organsisms are critically important to the ecosystem, and wanton destruction of them will have far-reaching consequences. Plants and these organsisms evolved together for a reason. That people are blowing this off as no big deal is mind-boggling. Also, it's not an alex jones article. Check the sources. Don't disregard the info simply because he linked it.

For a little background here's a wiki with a bit of info on these organisms: Mycorrhiza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Your exactly right. One of our advisers is Dr. Amaranthus of Mycorrhizal Applications. His knowledge on soil life is off the charts.

His products can renew soils and bring them back to life.
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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There are many fungis which live in the soil that form myccorhizal relationships with the plants that live in that same soil. They have evolved together with the plant's roots to form symbiotic relationships which are a tremendous benefit to the plants. They aid in water and nutrient uptake, making for more vigorous and drought resistant plants. They also can act as an 'innoculent' for the platn aiding in disease resistance. Organic farmers know this and use it to their great benefit. I myself grow rare species of tropical carnivorous plants from around the world, and have found these soil-borne fungis are necessary for these plants grow.

These soil organsisms are critically important to the ecosystem, and wanton destruction of them will have far-reaching consequences. Plants and these organsisms evolved together for a reason. That people are blowing this off as no big deal is mind-boggling. Also, it's not an alex jones article. Check the sources. Don't disregard the info simply because he linked it.

For a little background here's a wiki with a bit of info on these organisms: Mycorrhiza - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes, and Thank You. . . . .
All of these folks that blow off the harm that Monsanto has been doing for years are unaware, I suspect, of the presence of / importance of mycorrhiza. . . . .Those of us in the Horticultural community have been paying attention to this kind of thing for years!
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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Star Trek: The Inner Light - YouTube

First thing I thought of. What a beautiful melody.

Serenity now! Thanks for the tune.
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