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As opposed to the binder of papers it takes to own a weapon in California. Last time I checked, the 2nd Amendment was still in effect.
"Maybe" is a cop-out answer. If your argument is that an ID requirement disenfrachises voters based on cost "poll tax", then free ID's mitigate that argument.
Does the 2nd amendment say there shall be no tax on guns? I'm not the one who spends an hour a day reading the constitution, I don't know.
I don't think there's anything in the constitution about no ID to buy a gun. The constitutional argument with this voter ID stuff is that it can be construed as a poll tax.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8]
A hefty fee to own a weapon sounds like a "poll tax" (and infringement) to me....
It seems Hawaii's and South Carolina's law is very similar except that one small alternative. I wonder if SC put that provision in there, would it then pass muster with the DOJ? Right now, from the point of view as a citizen of the state of SC, the DOJ's actions seem punitive and rooted in politics vice actual legal concerns. I wonder if SC did include that caveat, what would happen? That would indeed be revealing, I believe.
Not sure what SC law says so can;t comment, I;ll try and read it this morning. I sure if they had a small provsion that said that so long as a person can prove their identity through some other accepatble way spelled out in the law, I can;t see why anyone would object.
The law on Hawai'i to prove identity to vote is less strict than the law to prove the right to vote. It was easy for me to prove to Hawai'i I was over 18 I just showed my out of state drivers licenese. It was easy to prove to Hawai'i that I was a US citizen, I showed my passport. But to prove I lived at the address on my voters registartion was the tough one because the place was all under my employer and I really had no acceptable residency proof. I ended up having to do a Vouch For by the person I was replacing who had to take out the affidavit that I was living at that address.
The question I have is what is SC doing to prove that the person voting is indeed legaly voting only in that polling place and that they legally are within the boundaries of that voting place? This is not about identity, this is about preventing the most commo0n fraud of all and that is people moving around and the elections department doing absolutley squat to prevent people from voting in different states. Hawai'i is constatly looking at ways to identify people who could be doing this as the whole point of their system is to ensure the one person, one vote, in the correct voting place belief.
(I know many politicians hate this cause it catches their fraudulent switching of residences to campaign for office someplace they really were not legal residents. so its not just the voters this is designed to verify, but the politicians as well)
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.[8]
A hefty fee to own a weapon sounds like a "poll tax" (and infringement) to me....
Nope, nice try. The constitution says NO POLL TAXES, while the constitution gives us the right to bear arms it also gives congress the right to lay taxes....
I don't think there's anything in the constitution about no ID to buy a gun. The constitutional argument with this voter ID stuff is that it can be construed as a poll tax.
Except that the argument being made by the left is not the poll tax argument, since that objection can be overcome by offering free state ID cards. The argument from the left is that blacks and other groups somehow lack the wherewithal to obtain ID, whether it's free or not. But this same argument would have applied to gun sales. If certain groups somehow can't manage to get ID, then their right to keep & bear arms has effectively been made null & void by GCA '68.
We do not have a national ID card in this country. It's something many in this country are rather proud of. It seems like some of you are suggesting we go to some sort of mandatory ID system.
Ummm.... except this is a state issue and states already have ID's. You seem a little slow here, try to keep up ok?
It's not about illegal people voting, which also hasn't been shown to be a problem. It's about legitimate voters being discouraged from exercising their constitutional right to vote. The GOP's objective is to place stumbling blocks in the way of voters who demographically vote Democratic.
Making someone drive as far as 176 miles to get the REQUIRED photo ID is one way. Sending a 86 year old veteran home without voting because his photo ID didn't have his address on it, is another.
Hopefully he doesn't drink, drive or smoke. If they do and don't have Id they are being discrimadated against.
It's not about illegal people voting, which also hasn't been shown to be a problem. It's about legitimate voters being discouraged from exercising their constitutional right to vote. The GOP's objective is to place stumbling blocks in the way of voters who demographically vote Democratic.
LOL
By the arguments democrats are making, simply requiring someone to breathe air in and out of their own damn mouths is a stumbling block for them.
What I find amusing is that the democrats make arguments that place their constituents at the level of being brain dead morons. It is really telling of how they view them.
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