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Yep, we tend to not tolerate idiocy, bigotry and exclusionary practices unlike the conservatives. When we see BS we're gonna call it out.
Exactly! Some people confuse being a masochist or ****** for "tolerance". I'm tolerant of gays, women seeking privacy within their reproductive systems, all religious beliefs (unless it's pushed on others), etc. Low tolerance for stupidity, willfull ignorance and self righteousness does equate to being generally intolerant.
If you can't tolerate what is stupid and doesn't work, is that really intolerance? If you have a greater understanding of the world around you, wouldn't you also have a higher perceived level of intolerance because of your education and refinement? I think if one is to claim that liberals are more intolerant, one is simultaneously claiming that liberals are more intelligent. An ignorant or uneducated individual wouldn't have the background and experience to develop constructive intolerance and would instead develop intolerance in its negative form (bigotry and the like).
I'm arguing that there may be a good kind and a bad kind. Maybe there are two forms of intolerance: that which is destructive/irrational and that which is constructive/rational.
Maybe this perceived liberal intolerance is because liberals know they can affect the things around them, they have the power and creativity to devise alternatives. They are, after all, behind every forward cultural movement. Change is often borne out of one's intolerance for a present situation. Maybe some intolerance of certain things is a positive trait because it forces constructive change.
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LIberals expressing their distaste about a speaker coming is
*gasp*
FREE SPEECH
But conservatives expressing their distaste calmly and non violently about a speaker coming in are, according to liberals;
Against free speech.
Intolerant.
Racist.
Hateful.
Sexist.
Homophobic.
Biased.
Against progress.
Opposed to new ideas.
Have a political agenda.
Mean spirited.
Vicious.
Etc. Choose as many as you like or add more.
You can no more back up the claim the Liberals these days ARE tolerant
Actually, most Liberals fit the dictionary definition:
Origin of LIBERAL
Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lēodan to grow, Greek eleutheros freeFirst Known Use: 14th century
liberal, generous, bountiful, munificent mean giving or given freely and unstintingly. liberal suggests openhandedness in the giver and largeness in the thing or amount given <a teacher liberal with her praise>. generous stresses warmhearted readiness to give more than size or importance of the gift <a generous offer of help>. bountiful suggests lavish, unremitting giving or providing <children spoiled by bountiful presents>. munificent suggests a scale of giving appropriate to lords or princes <a munificent foundation grant[end quote]
As well, it describes a liberal arts education which, contrary to popular
misconception, simply describes the classical education derived from the ancient Greeks and Romans.
It is, as well, the type of education enjoyed by our Founding Fathers.
It consisted of two phases; knowledge of Latin and Greek were essential,
and most studied the trivium, while those intending to be scholars also studied the quadrivium.
[quote] History
In classical antiquity, the "liberal arts" denoted the education worthy of a free person (Latin: liber, "free").[2] Contrary to popular belief, freeborn girls were as likely to receive formal education as boys, especially during the Roman Empire—unlike the lack-of-education, or purely manual/technical skills, proper to a slave.[3] The "liberal arts" or "liberal pursuits" (Latin liberalia studia) were already so called in formal education during the Roman Empire; for example, Seneca the Younger discusses liberal arts in education from a critical Stoic point of view in Moral Epistle 88.[4] The subjects that would become the standard "Liberal Arts" in Roman and Medieval times already comprised the basic curriculum in the enkuklios paideia or "education in a circle" of late Classical and Hellenistic Greece.
In the 5th century AD, Martianus Capella defined the seven Liberal Arts as: grammar, dialectic, rhetoric, geometry, arithmetic, astronomy, and music. In the medieval Western university, the seven liberal arts were divided in two parts:[5]
So, there seems to be little basis to the notion that liberals are "hate-filled" and "intolerant." That belief flies in the face of facts and accepted definition.
So...everyone gets to express their free speech..as long as liberals agree with what they say. Otherwise, liberals get to disrupt and prevent people from speaking. Do you understand what you're saying?
[quote=Evenstar51;23395044]Actually, most Liberals fit the dictionary definition:
Origin of LIBERAL
Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lēodan to grow, Greek eleutheros freeFirst Known Use: 14th century
liberal, generous, bountiful, munificent mean giving or given freely and unstintingly. liberal suggests openhandedness in the giver and largeness in the thing or amount given <a teacher liberal with her praise>. generous stresses warmhearted readiness to give more than size or importance of the gift <a generous offer of help>. bountiful suggests lavish, unremitting giving or providing <children spoiled by bountiful presents>. munificent suggests a scale of giving appropriate to lords or princes <a munificent foundation grant[end quote]
As well, it describes a liberal arts education which, contrary to popular
misconception, simply describes the classical education derived from the ancient Greeks and Romans.
It is, as well, the type of education enjoyed by our Founding Fathers.
It consisted of two phases; knowledge of Latin and Greek were essential,
and most studied the trivium, while those intending to be scholars also studied the quadrivium.
History
In classical antiquity, the "liberal arts" denoted the education worthy of a free person (Latin: liber, "free").[2] Contrary to popular belief, freeborn girls were as likely to receive formal education as boys, especially during the Roman Empire—unlike the lack-of-education, or purely manual/technical skills, proper to a slave.[3] The "liberal arts" or "liberal pursuits" (Latin liberalia studia) were already so called in formal education during the Roman Empire; for example, Seneca the Younger discusses liberal arts in education from a critical Stoic point of view in Moral Epistle 88.[4] The subjects that would become the standard "Liberal Arts" in Roman and Medieval times already comprised the basic curriculum in the enkuklios paideia or "education in a circle" of late Classical and Hellenistic Greece.
In the 5th century AD, Martianus Capella defined the seven Liberal Arts as: grammar, dialectic, rhetoric, geometry, arithmetic, astronomy, and music. In the medieval Western university, the seven liberal arts were divided in two parts:[5]
So, there seems to be little basis to the notion that liberals are "hate-filled" and "intolerant." That belief flies in the face of facts and accepted definition.
The fact that the definition of Liberal is what is found in the dictionary has little to do with the reality.
I have seen little evidence in real life and especially on this site that liberals are really liberal and tolerant
Hate is the defining characteristic of todays liberal along with intolerane of differing opinions, closemindedness and preconcieved notions.
The Liberal of the old days used to ant to change injustices and focus on human rights. They listened to the other side and while they might have disagreed with the opinion, they would fight for your right to say it.
Liberals of today want to silence you, shout you down, spread lies hate, distort facts to further their agenda. They have lists of enemies that they want to literally destroy.... look at the Limbaugh selective outrage for a great example
In fairness, the republican side does many of the same things, but at least they admit to being intolerant of certain things
I fully expect to get alot of hate mail, maybe even a death threat as i have recieved on here from some of those tolerant "liberals" on this site.... but I like it.... because I sleep very well with a clean soul knowing I speak the 100% truth and the sick souls hate people like me
Yeppers, the Lib Party has lied for years, saying we conservatives and the GOP party are the party of and for the rich, and claiming it is they that are most supportive of the needy. THEN, we finally had a landmark study that proved once and for all that we conservatives, the GOP party is the party that is most charitable!
The lieing libs have called us "intolerant" for years because we won't tolerate evil or immorality being the norm, and what our kids are taught is good and fine, etc. etc. We knew and claimed all along that they were the intolerant ones, and it is the lib side that is most given to violence in their militancy, too.
Finally, a study for this, too while it's no surprise to many of us.
I disagree with liberals, but I do not want to shut them down......I want them to have freedom of speech.
The problem is, the libs drool at the thought of shutting up ANYONE who goes against their ideology. Most Liberals would be very happy and supportive if Big Brother was to shut-down Conservatives.
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