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Old 03-17-2012, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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It's being done in Mass. with their healthcare.


The first year fine for not having insurance is $95. Is there any plan out there for less than $95/year ?
If something happens where you need care, you best believe there would be great costs to you, as well as the rest of us, who would pay for what you wouldn't.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If something happens where you need care, you best believe there would be great costs to you, as well as the rest of us, who would pay for what you wouldn't.
Why everyone else would via higher premiums.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:42 AM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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More from Washington Examiner via Real Politics:


Now comes CBO saying that a computer model used by it and the Joint Committee on Taxation to project the impact of changes in federal health care policy could result in as many as 20 million Americans losing the insurance they currently have through their employers. A more likely outcome, according to CBO, would be only 5 million people losing their present coverage. But whether the actual total proves to be 20 million or 5 million or some figure in between, such losses undermine Obama's credibility with large numbers of people who were previously willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Why do you expect the government to spend more than you paid into the system? Personally, as I've repeated in the past, I wish people like you were given an inflation adjusted contribution (whatever you put into the system, if at all), and told "you're on your own now".
Actually I believe that you don't understand that we of the SS class get about 1/10th of what we are to get from it withheld to pay into Medicare. Also, I am sure that you have no idea how much the MediGap insurance costs. Yep, I pay over $300 per month to have health insurance. Maybe if you did some research you would know some of these things.

I really am embarrassed to have the man who does my endoscopyies bi-annually to be forewarned when my cancer of the esophagus is coming get only about 1/2 of what he bills and the hospital about the same amount. However, they either get paid by Medicare, the amount those bureaucrats think would be right or they don't get paid. Surely you do know that whatever amount the board thinks is right is all they can get. Nobody asked me if I wanted to be on Medicare. The law says that when you get to 65 you have to be on Medicare and of course the insurance companies have to drop you unless you want to pay more than what you paid before attaining the age of 65.

Actually I think that you just can't see anything like this because you just don't want what I say to be true. Check the law concerning Medicare that I have been paying in on since its inception and still do pay on. You might find that we pay about the same amount.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I am sure Obama does favor that. I and most Americans do as well. The ACA doesn't do that and as time goes by, I hope we are able to shake off the shackles of the Ins Industry buying of Congress, and start to move in that direction.
Yep, bob, you and Barack do both favor socialized medicine and I don't agree that most Americans are with you. Most Democrats, probably, but not the rest of us.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Why do you expect the government to spend more than you paid into the system? Personally, as I've repeated in the past, I wish people like you were given an inflation adjusted contribution (whatever you put into the system, if at all), and told "you're on your own now".
Actually I believe that you don't understand that we of the SS class get about 1/10th of what we are to get from it withheld to pay into Medicare. Also, I am sure that you have no idea how much the MediGap insurance costs. Yep, I pay over $300 per month to have health insurance. Maybe if you did some research you would know some of these things.

I really am embarrassed to have the man who does my endoscopyies bi-annually to be forewarned when my cancer of the esophagus is coming get only about 1/2 of what he bills and the hospital about the same amount. However, they either get paid by Medicare, the amount those bureaucrats think would be right or they don't get paid. Surely you do know that whatever amount the board thinks is right is all they can get. Nobody asked me if I wanted to be on Medicare. The law says that when you get to 65 you have to be on Medicare and of course the insurance companies have to drop you unless you want to pay more than what you paid before attaining the age of 65.

Actually I think that you just can't see anything like this because you just don't want what I say to be true. Check the law concerning Medicare that I have been paying in on since its inception and still do pay on. You might find that we pay about the same amount.
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:02 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Actually speaking of Social Security, which I just applied for, there are taxes on that, too!
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Old 03-18-2012, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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If anyone bothered to read the first few pages of 'Obamacare' they would have seen a section relating to 'keeping your plan'. A paragraph states that if ANY changes are made to your plan, benefits or even just words, 'the secretary' can consider the plan as being null and void. So if a plan wants to change a co-pay from $15 to $20, it could become a 'no plan for you'
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Old 03-18-2012, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I don't know how to put anyone on ignore. Why would anybody reply to that nonsense? Other than to say, it's nonsense. So, it's nonsense.
Ask meson since he had me on for over a year, took me off, and then put me back on. He could surely tell you how easy it is.
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Old 03-19-2012, 07:02 AM
 
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So you see life, not as a right, but as a privilege that the government need not obligated to respect?
If you understood what you read in my posts, there is no way you could reasonably come to that conclusion.
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