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Old 03-19-2012, 04:08 PM
 
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I found that info on a medical website and I had one myself! I will ty to find that same website again and post it here but in the meantime.......

"How the test will feel"
"The test is usually painless, although some women may have mild discomfort from the pressure of the probe. Only a small part of the probe is placed into the vagina".

What is Transvaginal ultrasound?
Apparently from what I've seen online, doctors commonly tell their patients that it is around the size of a tampon. Probably similar to saying "this won't hurt a bit".

Regardless, the device is inserted up to the cervix and it is not like a tampon at all, in the same way that you can't feel it. They need to move it around in order to get their best imaging. Why it's appropriate to use to that to check that there's a pregnancy is beyond me, when there's a completely non invasive alternative. (Not that I think any ultrasound is appropriate in this instance, unless it's medically necessary).

Please look at the diagram from the Mayo Clinic and reiterate that it's not a big deal, no pun intended.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/images/ima...ultrasound.jpg


It's totally annoying me that you can't admit that this is an invasive and unpleasant procedure, and for it to be forced on someone is totally unconscionable. I respect that you don't agree with abortion, but abortion is a legal procedure and this is not the way to go about punishing women for doing it.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Tortutous thing? Even the picture shows it as being smaller than a man's penis and not much different than the size of a tampon. It is being promoted over an abdominal ultrasound because the internal one is much more accurate and gives much more information for a doctor to work with.
Picture that FinsterRufus attached showed that it IS very much like a man's penis, besides, for usual intercourse there is always a foreplay that prepares v. for such an entrance... in case of TV ultrasound - no such thing, only some lube jelly.
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It is being promoted over an abdominal ultrasound because the internal one is much more accurate and gives much more information for a doctor to work with.
Besides, to this hundredth time mentioned "accuracy" of trans-vaginal - WHY would such accuracy be needed?? Surely, not to tell the age of the pregnancy?

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Old 03-19-2012, 04:12 PM
 
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Tortutous thing? Even the picture shows it as being smaller than a man's penis and not much different than the size of a tampon. It is being promoted over an abdominal ultrasound because the internal one is much more accurate and gives much more information for a doctor to work with.
Sorry, I didn't see this post. What do you need all this information for? The women wants an abortion, not a full size portrait. They know how to do one without an ultrasound, they've been doing them for years without ultrasound.

It is much different to a tampon, it moves around and is up against the cervix, it's not painful (for me) but it's not pleasant. It's especially not pleasant I imagine when somebody's told you you have to have one for no good medical purpose.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I suggest you never go to a comedy club then. The humor they use in them is a lot more racier than that remark was. All of a sudden pro-choicers have turned prudish? Kind of a contradiction in terms, isn't it?
Heres the thing, comedians are funny.
That comment was not.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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I guess maybe I should add, just in case, that I ALSO had this iv ultrasound done a couple of years back, to check up the ovaries... it was NOT the size of tampon! (which is plenty big for me, as even tampon fills just about everything there)
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There are likely several women who thought the same thing, until they actually had to make that decision.

There are plenty of women in their late forties/early fifties who have been faced with a surprise pregnancy, and given their set of circumstances and the agonizing thought that likely went into making the decision to terminate, I think it's downright cruel to subject them to this kind of extra humiliation on top of it.

If you think they really don't know what they're doing then you don't give women a lot of credit.
What she said!

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My doctor won't continue to give me the medications I need if I refuse to come to his office every three months for an exam. Yes, I guess you do have the right to put your health at risk if you so choose. However, that drives up insurance costs when health issues aren't detected at an early stage.

Seat belts are mandated why aren't you complaining that it is your right not to wear one and raise hell because you get a ticket for exercising "your right to choose"?
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What a stupid comment.
Crude, too. (Not at you!)

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The doctors should be prosecuted and made to pay for these women's healthcare costs if there are complications from her abortion that puts her in a public hospital.
WTH?

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That's funny since I have never mentioned it before until I was replying to someone in here a couple of minutes ago. How is that an obsession then? I was pointing out the facts but of course as a pro-choicer you feel the need to insult and insuate. So typical of your side. Civil debate is beyond your scope.
You have discussed the size of the probe several times over. Do your own search of your posts. I'm not going to slog through 450 of them. I had one of those ultrasounds, and my tech was nice enough to give me the wand to insert myself. If was a lot longer than a tampon, I remember that!

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Have you lost your sense of humor or never had one? Me thinks we have struck a nerve of truth.
Don't praise yourself so much. It was the height of crude.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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I found that info on a medical website and I had one myself! I will ty to find that same website again and post it here but in the meantime.......

"How the test will feel"
"The test is usually painless, although some women may have mild discomfort from the pressure of the probe. Only a small part of the probe is placed into the vagina".

What is Transvaginal ultrasound?
Oy vey.
That is so NOT the point.
Are you being obtuse on purpose?
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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1) NOT only babies can and need to be adopted
2) going to the "ends of the earth"... well, why not? There are STILL loads of kids that NEED to be adopted, around the world! They are poor, sick and don't have good medical care, no hopes for decent life... So what if they are in another country? If our country has more people willing to adopt then babies available - great!! Means, we can help those other kids!
They do deserve help, and they are already BORN. And suffering!
There is nothing wrong with going to the "ends of the earth". Few would do so, however, if they could adopt a baby in the US. That was my point. Heck, I was kind of on the "pro-life" side in that one; I was responding to someone who said these babies, if unaborted, wouldn't get adopted. They'd be snapped up before they were out of the birth canal!

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Old 03-19-2012, 04:44 PM
 
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You've had one, but you still insist it's the size of a tampon? Did you look at the link I provided?

Of course, if you did have one, it wasn't because you were forced to have it.
That won't work. That particular poster doesn't know what "force" or "forced" even means and can't seem to find a dictionary
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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Sure you were. I wasn't born yesterday you know. I know when something is said to be humorous and when it is meant to smear someone.
This wasn't?


Originally Posted by SourD
Oh big deal. This is funny. On one hand, women want free BC so they CAN stick things inside them whenever they want, but THIS is a no no? Hey, if you wanna play, you have to pay!
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