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Old 03-23-2012, 10:15 PM
 
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Yep anti-smoking campaigns just don't work
The report’s figures relating to smokers, 18 years and older, show that the number of smokers in the population dropped by 0.3% from 2005 to 2009 and then a further 1.3% of the population stopped smoking by 2010. Although a small percentage - 1.6%, this drop equates to three million fewer smokers than if no decline had occurred. The drop was from 20.9% in 2005 to 20.6% in 2009 and then 19.3% in 2010.
Smokers Numbers Drop in U.S. - Webctor.com

Let's see spending $54 million to reduce the $72 billion in annual health care cost due to smoking. Absolutely ridiculous waste of taxpayer money

Will sanity ever return?
You had to have had some, in order for it to return.

Tell me. Where, in the article, does it say anything about the declining number of smoking adults being directly related to some multi-million dollar government program.

And tell me this as well. Where does it indicate how many teens are smoking?


Interestingly enough, the article DOES say that increasing the price of cigarettes HAS led to lower numbers of people smoking.


Perhaps you need to do more thinking before you post snarky comments with the little eye-roll emoticon.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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So we have a debt problem and instead of using the money to pay off the debt or balance the books... we spend 54 million on an anti-smoking campaign? I swear these people are idiots.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Who will fund Children's health care if
they're successful in stopping smoking?
They're spending money to lose money.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:27 AM
 
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The only thing that would do is to fire up a very healthy black market for cigarettes.....and all of the crime that would come with it.
Exactly, people need to learn the lessons about the failures of the war on drugs and increased crime is the largest failure.


I wouldn't be surprised if there was large black market now, I can make a carton a smokes in about 1/2 an hour for about $10 and that is with basic manual machine. Retail that costs about $60. Let's say I sold them for $40, $60 an hour isn't chump change.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:31 AM
 
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.......they could make several million in taxes.

All those taxes would get gobbled up by enforcement and increased costs associated with crime.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Oh, God, another smoking thread! I should have my head examined for even thinking about posting here. However, fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

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I have never been a smoker (never taken a single toke), so I can't speak from experience. BUT....both of my parents were smokers. As a youth, I railed and railed to get them to stop smoking and it didn't happen until after I was an adult. Since then, my mother has convinced me that a person must be ready to stop smoking before they'll actually stop. It has to originate from within the person......a government anti-smoking campaign will never trump personal motivation when addiction is involved.
Well, your mom is right, of course.

Some people "quit" numerous times before they quit for good. But who knows what motivates them to do that final quit? Saying these programs are useless is like saying advertising doesn't work, and we have a huge advertising industry to prove that wrong.

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Wait a minute, smoking is bad for you? Why didnt anyone ever tell me that lighting something on fire and sucking in the fumes was bad for you?
Believe it or not, it took a lot of government "advertising" to get people to the point that they thought it was bad for you. People, egged on by the cigarette industry, railed against anyone that thought smoking was bad for you, for decades.
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I also wonder what could motivate people to quit smoking. My father used to smoke a lot, and quit repeatedly, he did try. But he was a rather weak, troubled man. But one day he quit for good. I guess he was simply scared of health problems, back then there were more and more reports about the risks of smoking. Money was also an issue, cigarettes became more and more expensive.
I am glad I never smoked in my life

In the US I assume many people reject such campaigns because they consider it social engineering. They are like teenagers who don't want their parents to tell them when they are doing something they shouldn't be doing. The same general rejection as when Mrs Obama tells kids to eat healthier foods etc. Like, it's none of your business, we have the goddamn right to ruin our health ^^
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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The $54m is a good investment.
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Old 03-24-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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I believe this has more to do with a cultural shift then it does with a stop-smoking campaign. Smoking just isn't as socially accepted as it used to be. That's likely driving the figures more than government efforts.
How in the frack does one achieve a frack'n "cultural shift"
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Old 03-24-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas
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Waste of money. People will smoke no matter what. This money could be better spent/
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