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Old 03-16-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Obama shifts healthcare defense - The Hill's Healthwatch

I wonder why, when it was supposed to be so clearly Constitutional and everything. We change arguments now?
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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They blew the opportunity. If you think about it, forcing people to buy a retirement plan (social security) is not much different than healthcare. They should have simply RAISED payroll taxes by about ten percent and rolled out a combined SS/healthcare program. It didn't have to be mandatory. Anyone could have stayed on private insurance or even a supplemental plan. In reality, most people would have switched. Some insurance companies would have lost out, but other sectors would have picked it up. Somebody still has to process and administer. The healthcare companies could have contracted with the government as administrators. The net benefit to the country as a whole would be positive.

They had a chance and they let their partisan ideology ruin it. They Democrats don't want single payer national health. They want free care for the masses paid for by a few of us who did very well in our careers and businesses. It is mathematically impossible.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:10 AM
 
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The motivation was pretty clearly fixing the coverage gap. That wasn't a Democrat issue. Plenty of Presidents from both sides tried healthcare reform. They just all failed.

In terms of things being paid by a few, the costs are spread pretty wide and it does require everyone to chip in. In terms of it being mathematically impossible, fully socialized medicine is clearly working in many other countries. I guess while you did well in your business/career, you didn't do so well in math class.

In terms of the shift, nobody knows what the SCOTUS will do on any issue. Each side typically presents the best argument that they can. Intelligent people in just about anything will change their mind when appropriate. It wasn't the smart people who were claiming that the world was flat and not round. It was the other way around.
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