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Old 03-19-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Assuming you'd kids affected by this. Explain to me, why you couldn't teach your kids if they were also taught at school? Is it that your kids won't listen to you? Then you have a different problem at hand... stop blaming schools and governments for that.
Blame goes where it's deserved.

Schools are not supposed to be in direct odds with parents. My kids are adults, and our school system is/was a great one here in Torrance Ca. If I had lived in a large city district the outcome wouldn't have been the same. Why do you think people move solely for the schools?

Stop pumping the socialist logic that a school should do more than teach reading, writing, math and science. Sex is the topic, and parental sovereignty at stake. When you have kids let me know, you obviously don't see things the same as a parent would.
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Old 03-19-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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I support Sex Education in Public Schools and people who say otherwise are violating what would be my right as a parent to provide my children with education on a very important manner.
They are violating every parents rights by not asking permission for minor children no matter their age to take part in these classes. Ask first if the parent or parents agree fine. I don't agree with it and my children will not be allowed to attend that filth but if other parents want their kids to learn how to the disgusting acts they are going to show then go ahead.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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The GOP seems to want it both ways. They want to ban sex education, abortion, and limit contraception's but they want people to exercise personal responsibility.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:06 PM
 
Location: SWUS
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It still amazes me to this day that people think that forbidding/encouraging teens to NOT do something will prevent them from experimenting with whatever is forbidden.

Kudos to this man for doing what's right.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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It still amazes me to this day that people think that forbidding/encouraging teens to NOT do something will prevent them from experimenting with whatever is forbidden.

Kudos to this man for doing what's right.
Yes, its just like prohibition, and the drug war, and TV, and music censorship...oh wait, all colossal failures
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Old 03-20-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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They are violating every parents rights by not asking permission for minor children no matter their age to take part in these classes. Ask first if the parent or parents agree fine. I don't agree with it and my children will not be allowed to attend that filth but if other parents want their kids to learn how to the disgusting acts they are going to show then go ahead.
And what pray tell doyou do when a parent doesn't teach their children or is too closed minded to think their children aren't the little angels they think they are? Who is to teach them before they wind up pregnant or getting a girl pregnant?
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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They are violating every parents rights by not asking permission for minor children no matter their age to take part in these classes. Ask first if the parent or parents agree fine.
Yup, "they" sure are. Like in Utah, prior to this law being passed, where (wait for it.....):

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At present, Utah school districts can offer sex education classes, with some restrictions, and parents decide whether their teenage children can take the elective class or not.
Utah lawmakers pass bill to curb sex education in schools - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/utah-lawmakers-pass-bill-curb-sex-education-schools-045319709.html - broken link)

So one has to wonder why lawmakers in Utah felt it necessary to address an issue that did not exist. And considering that you yourself started an entire thread devoted to that link, I have to wonder, again (just as in the other thread), why you don't seem to know that already.

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I don't agree with it and my children will not be allowed to attend that filth but if other parents want their kids to learn how to the disgusting acts they are going to show then go ahead.
Except that since you believe it should be entirely left up to parents, you don't actually believe anything after the word "but" in your statement. Please try to be at least a little consistent here. You don't support parents having the choice to allow the school to provide this instruction as part of the curriculum.

And, like most hypocrites of the conservative bent, you proscribe and support top-down educational mandates, like this one in Utah, in order to achieve your "desired" results, all the while ranting and raving about the lack of "local control" in schools.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Blame goes where it's deserved.

Schools are not supposed to be in direct odds with parents. My kids are adults, and our school system is/was a great one here in Torrance Ca. If I had lived in a large city district the outcome wouldn't have been the same. Why do you think people move solely for the schools?

Stop pumping the socialist logic that a school should do more than teach reading, writing, math and science. Sex is the topic, and parental sovereignty at stake. When you have kids let me know, you obviously don't see things the same as a parent would.
It is a step forward from claiming "against parental rights" to being at odds. So, how exactly is this a case for school being at direct odds with parents?
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