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This was one of the original news reports...an original witness to some of the actual event. Check the date...
I don't understand why folks are dismissing this witness? This report was filed less than 24 hours after the killing and weeks before the national media storm. To date this is the most credible witness in the story. His story backs up the scene as described in the police report.
I haven't seen anything stating he was out @ 2am or anything extensive on the witness accounts...
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I don't understand why folks are dismissing this witness?
Because it takes a lot of the sensitivity out of the subject....
It weakens a lot of peoples agenda....
etc. etc.
It's pretty obvious.
OR it could be that it was a BS account. But I am sure that would have been well exposed if true. He is obviously the only eye witness that saw what happened before the fact.
Was Zimmerman actually getting back into his truck and going about his business?? Or indeed going to the mailboxes to meet the PD?? And then ambushed?? In the process, getting his nose broken and his head cut open??
Was Zimmerman yelling for help in the process??? If he was, would that indicate that he didn't want to shoot??
Is it a little odd that a 17 year old school aged teen is going to get skittles @ 2am??
Unless there was another Hot Handz posting in this thread...if that be the case I do apologize for the confusion.
The only people who hear "coon" are the ones who want to.
It's impossible.... it could be coons or punks... it could be either way....It's funny how he was trying to coerce the engineer and the engineer said explicitly "it's very difficult to tell what he is saying"
Reminds me of the ''baby doll'' that supposedly said ''black hoe'' when it said ''black hole'' NAACP needs hearing aids.
Doesn't change the fact I originally stated the fact I read nothing... and I even reinforced it and stood corrected in another post.
Now, care to discuss the law?? Let's see how "in tune" you are with it... or are you just cherry picking like the people you are accusing??
Which takes me back to my original statement. IF you were paying attention you wouldn't need to fact check because the time of the incident is one of the FEW facts we know.
IF you'd been paying attention you would have known what time he was out and when the whole 2am comment first occurred you would have known it was false just like the people here who actually took the time to read the reports.
But no I don't want to discuss the law with you....what are your qualifications to interpret the law? Do you play a lawyer on City Data? I can Google the same information that you're posting. But you've been in these threads from the beginning so I already know you're angle. You work in distraction "he's not white he's Hispanic" "what if Martin jumped from behind a bush" "they weren't skittles they were M&M's"
(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.
This does seem to place the burden on the dead person. When combined with the sgy law, I can see why 'justifiable homicides' have tripled.
I don't think it puts the burden on the dead person. But I could see why legislators would draft the statute in that fashion.
This law is designed for situations like the one from Sleeping With The Enemy with Julia Roberts (only it extends beyond your home and into the street). Basically, you're walking down the street while listening to your iPod, and then the hitman your ex-husband contracted to murder you jumps out of an alley with a pipe and swings for your head. Unbeknownst to him, you were just coming from the shooting range, and as you duck underneath his swinging lead pipe, you unload a clip of hot lead into his chest. The cops show up, find you in a corner shaking, and also find a deceased assailant with a lead pipe in cold hand.
This was not the case for Trayvon Martin. The "unlawful" act in this case was the unjustified use of force, as evidenced by the fact that Martin was armed with a bag of Skittles. A finding of "probable cause" does not have to be a sure thing. It's simply a matter of the cop saying, "Man, this kid was unarmed. He probably had no reason to kill him." A dead body is almost always grounds for an arrest.
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You can believe whatever you like...the federal government is not going away. They will make sure that justice is served.
That is the problem in this country, the feds stick there nose where it doesn't belong, to many times.
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