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But heres the thing, would they be allowed to or would they have to allow courts to decide first he was guilty of fraud?
Nope. The role is reserved exclusively for the Congress. The judicial branch has no role either before or after an impeachment process. Neither does the executive branch. All powers of investigation, indictment, trial and sentencing belong to Congress... split only between the House and the Senate.
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I mean with clinton it was done on the federal level due to their investigation of him. But since this is being handled on a local level would a court first have to determine that?
Nope... the Congress can act without any involvement or action of any court at any level.
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And what if it's proven he personally knew nothing about this himself and assumed it was fact he was born in this country?
That might shield an ineligible President from criminal prosecution after he or she became a private citizen again. But eligibility is a state of being, not a state of knowing. That would make no difference to the Congress's exclusivity of action.
Nope. The role is reserved exclusively for the Congress. The judicial branch has no role either before or after an impeachment process. Neither does the executive branch. All powers of investigation, indictment, trial and sentencing belong to Congress... split only between the House and the Senate.
Nope... the Congress can act without any involvement or action of any court at any level.
That might shield an ineligible President from criminal prosecution after he or she became a private citizen again. But eligibility is a state of being, not a state of knowing. That would make no difference to the Congress's exclusivity of action.
Not that it would matter i imagine since they would never get the 2/3 needed to actually toss him out.
Not that it would matter i imagine since they would never get the 2/3 needed to actually toss him out.
Actually, were there to be any genuine proof that Obama was not eligible, I have no doubts that the Congress would impeach and convict him in a heart beat.
But of course, they are all very aware (especially the Republicans) that Birthism is vacuous idiocy.
Actually, were there to be any genuine proof that Obama was not eligible, I have no doubts that the Congress would impeach and convict him in a heart beat.
But of course, they are all very aware (especially the Republicans) that Birthism is vacuous idiocy.
It would i think depend on public perception of that revelation would bring i think. If he's riding high in the polls, and a good majority don't agree with it, i doubt even the republicans would waste their time trying to proceed. If obviously there is a public outcry then i imagine it would. But more then likely they would pressure him to step down first.
It would i think depend on public perception of that revelation would bring i think. If he's riding high in the polls, and a good majority don't agree with it, i doubt even the republicans would waste their time trying to proceed. If obviously there is a public outcry then i imagine it would. But more then likely they would pressure him to step down first.
Well, we've seen how relentless they can be with fabricated issues/investigations, one can only imagine that if they had any actual evidence of wrongdoing they'd be howling for blood.
Wow! They've even gone as far as to modify a 2008 U.S.P.S. date stamp and invert the stamp to make the year '80'. These idiots will do anything for clown Obozo. The only people they're fooling are the fools!!! Is that you...fool?
Do you honestly not understand how incredibly stupid that set of questions makes you sound?
I guess you don't understand how non-sensical your answer sounds. Is you is or is you ain't any of those people? Simple answers like yes and no usually suffice to answer such simple questions. I have often wondered about why you show up at some times and not others.
There is no good reason to believe for a second that this story is true.
Is there a better reason to believe that your lack of belief is any truer than this story? Oh yeah, I forgot one's lean determines what is and what isn't true.
He didn't need to prove this silly story wrong in 2009 when the mail man first shopped it around. Why would you hallucinate he would have to now?
It is always amusing to me how Birthers think that the President of the United States has an obligation to respond to every idiotic falsehood and fabrication you guys come up with. Never before have I seen a single delusion of grandeur shared by a whole group of people.
Let's pretend for a second he did. I know, I know... it's idiotic. But let's pretend.
So what? How would that be a problem?
How would it be either fraud or perjury?
I would think that the only Presidents we have had who weren't born in the US would all have been legal but don't know of one of them who was ever a citizen of any other country. If The Won came to Occidental as a citizen of Indonesia he certainly was different than all those others. Once one gives up his citizenship, for any reason, he is no longer a citizen but seemingly that makes no difference to you.
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