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Old 03-21-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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We want to be sure to keep it.
Who's trying to take it away from you?

 
Old 03-21-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: North America
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No thanks.
 
Old 03-21-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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Return the favor by keeping your mockery of religion to yourself.
Government has no more right to force your rejection of religion down the throats of others than it does to compel you to embrace a belief system with which you disagree.

Funny thing about freedoms protected from government intervention.....they are intended to be protected by rather than imposed upon by government. Inconvenient as that may be to those that take exception to anyone that thinks differently from them that is one of the roles of government.
I never said I rejected religion. I clearly indicated that if religion doesn't make sense, then it is open to scrutiny and can be, I implied, rejected and discarded. I'm not forcing anything but reason into the discussion. I reject religions that don't make sense. For example, I can dissect and destroy Christianity in a few minutes with logic and science. Why someone would take such an infusion of rational thought as a personal assault is their problem, not mine. If it upsets a person that their religion, something they probably hold dear, can be easily undermined and picked apart, enough so that it causes uncomfortable doubt, then the real question becomes "Why believe it in the first place?" The only thing religious people are claiming they want freedom to do is to continue to be utterly foolish in light of the real world around them. Everyone has that freedom but why propagate it? And why let such foolishness impact the laws of the land?

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Old 03-21-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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I never said I rejected religion. I clearly indicated that if religion doesn't make sense, then it is open to scrutiny and can be, I implied, rejected and discarded. I'm not forcing anything but reason into the discussion. I reject religions that don't make sense. For example, I can dissect and destroy Christianity in a few minutes with logic and science. Why someone would take such an infusion of rational thought as a personal assault is their problem, not mine. If it upsets a person that their religion, something they probably hold dear, can be easily undermined and picked apart, enough so that it causes uncomfortable doubt, then the real question becomes "Why believe it in the first place?" The only thing religious people are claiming they want freedom to do is to continue to be utterly foolish in light of the real world around them. Everyone has that freedom but why propagate it? And why let such foolishness impact the laws of the land?
Where was there any statement on my part advocating government propagate religion?

People should be free to embrace religious beliefs regardless of your opinion of them. Government has no business attempting to refute those beliefs.

It's amazing, despite your obvious sense of self-importance, that you're unable to fathom a concept as simple as that of government refraining from taking a side in the religious debate.
 
Old 03-21-2012, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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How many muslims have been invited to the rally?
 
Old 03-21-2012, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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How many muslims have been invited to the rally?
I would say that the rally will probably end at a spot protesting building of what they would call... 911 mosque (we're approaching that time of the season).
 
Old 03-21-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Gone
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I really do not know of even one religous freedom that has been lost and until someone can provide them with proof of such I will consider this nothing more than propaganda being spread by those same people that would love nothing better than to force their own brand of religon on others.
 
Old 03-21-2012, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there
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Default Hmmm....

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How is religion being forced on you? You're free to believe or not believe anything you want. You're equally free to walk away when others discuss religion if that discussion offends you.

What you're not free to do is demand everyone else share your rejection of religion and refrain from discussing it. That's every bit as much an imposition of your beliefs and preferences upon others as the behaviors you claim to object to.

Atheists, particularly those so dogmatic in their beliefs as to reference those beliefs in their usernames are consistently among the least tolerant individuals it has been my misfortune to encounter.
What do you think about those whose online names proclaim their religion?

I wonder how a day dedicated to noisy Atheist Proselytizing would go down with the über-devout and very noisy Christian mob here in the USoA?

Check out the Religion & Philosophy sub-forum here, esp. over on the "Dark Side" (as we call it...) Christianity sub-sub.
 
Old 03-21-2012, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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What do you think about those whose online names proclaim their religion?

I wonder how a day dedicated to noisy Atheist Proselytizing would go down with the über-devout and very noisy Christian mob here in the USoA?

Check out the Religion & Philosophy sub-forum here, esp. over on the "Dark Side" (as we call it...) Christianity sub-sub.
I couldn't figure out a tactful way of using Craps in my online name. I suspect several on this board would say I spread a lot of it here. But, I will be standing up for my Religion Friday. Praying to the Dice Gods in the Casinos in Biloxi.
 
Old 03-21-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I really do not know of even one religous freedom that has been lost...
That assumes that, like you and I, these people care about the realities.
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