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Old 03-22-2012, 07:55 PM
 
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The stand your ground law is inconsequential in the murder of that young boy in Florida.

There shouldnt even be a need for a stand your ground law. However the justice system is so perverse in the treatment of victims as criminals when they fight back it is needed.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:09 PM
 
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The stand your ground law is inconsequential in the murder of that young boy in Florida.

There shouldnt even be a need for a stand your ground law. However the justice system is so perverse in the treatment of victims as criminals when they fight back it is needed.
The point is that in many cases people seemed to have gone out of their way to instigate using their weapons, then claming they felt endangered after they pulled the trigger. I can understand someone breaking into your house and you need to take action, but many cases seem to have gone well beyond personal protection and into open agression.

What was the problem that this legislation solved.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:11 PM
 
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The stand your ground law is inconsequential in the murder of that young boy in Florida.
Why do you say that, you understand that is the defense the shooter is using?
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:14 PM
 
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Yeah, Florida's law does invite this sort of thing. It basically says instead of making any sort of attempt to just walk away, you can shoot someone if you feel threatened. Basically, if you stop someone on the street and ask them what time it is, they can shoot you.

Stand your ground laws just invite this type of thing.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:19 PM
 
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Yeah, Florida's law does invite this sort of thing. It basically says instead of making any sort of attempt to just walk away, you can shoot someone if you feel threatened. Basically, if you stop someone on the street and ask them what time it is, they can shoot you.

Stand your ground laws just invite this type of thing.
You should not stop anybody on the street at anytime for any reason. Look at a clock somewhere. Especially after dark.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:24 PM
 
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Why do you say that, you understand that is the defense the shooter is using?
So what just because he is trying to hide behind a law doesn't mean that its the law that is at issue. Its the actions of the dumb-assed shooter that is at issue. This is being used as a shield to hide behind. Again if the justice system would start standing up for the rights of victims to protect themselves no matter where they are then you wouldn't have to have these type of shield laws.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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You should not stop anybody on the street at anytime for any reason. Look at a clock somewhere. Especially after dark.
...and if your car is stuck on the street, don't knock on the door, sit in the car and wait.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:47 PM
 
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So what just because he is trying to hide behind a law doesn't mean that its the law that is at issue. Its the actions of the dumb-assed shooter that is at issue. This is being used as a shield to hide behind. Again if the justice system would start standing up for the rights of victims to protect themselves no matter where they are then you wouldn't have to have these type of shield laws.
Except that it is because of this LAW that Zimmerman was able to walk away that night by claiming self-defense. Because of this LAW claiming self-defense with no other witnesses to the shooting was enough for the police department to pat him on his back and send him on his merry way.

If the LAW hadn't been enacted in 2005, Mr. Zimmerman would have at the very least been held on pending charges. So yes he was able to walk free because of this LAW. The police let him effectively hide behind it.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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...and if your car is stuck on the street, don't knock on the door, sit in the car and wait.
That is what a cell phone and AAA is for. Otherwise put the hood up and wait for the cops.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:51 PM
 
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Except that it is because of this LAW that Zimmerman was able to walk away that night by claiming self-defense. Because of this LAW claiming self-defense with no other witnesses to the shooting was enough for the police department to pat him on his back and send him on his merry way.

If the LAW hadn't been enacted in 2005, Mr. Zimmerman would have at the very least been held on pending charges. So yes he was able to walk free because of this LAW. The police let him effectively hide behind it.

Nope its the mishandling of the case by the police and local DA. Either intentionally or unintentionally.
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