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Old 03-24-2012, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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We do have a right to hold him to high standards, i don't know about your standards, but mine and most people i associate with, have standards that exceeds this POTUS" ability to comprehend.


This isn't a card game. He made promises that he is not capable of keeping, due to the corrupt nature of his soul, and the self seeking interests he makes for HIMSELF. None of his policies or decisions meet the expectations of the American people.
If it were not for the MSM cover he gets hourly, you'd see the real disdain for this POTUS.

Your making an awful lot of assumptions which you can't prove.

 
Old 03-24-2012, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Your making an awful lot of assumptions which you can't prove.
Ya think?
 
Old 03-24-2012, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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ONLY when we are in imminent danger of an attack on our soil.

110 Tomahawks launched on a Puppet dictator the western nations created is not legal under the oath he swore to uphold the Constitution.
Nonsense. American President's have been committing troops to battle without direct, specific Congressional approval for more than a century and, in many cases, without any "imminent danger" to our soil.

What was the imminent danger when the US Navy shelled the city of Tourane (Danang) before our Civil War? Or, when US forces participated in a war against Korean pirates or the Boxer Rebellion or any of a number of occupations in Nicaruagua, the Dominican Republic, Panama or Haiti or, for that matter, Hawaii?
 
Old 03-24-2012, 08:18 PM
 
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This Marine is the hero. What do you think they are fighting for, if not to be able to speak their minds and protect the Constitution? They aren't robots to serve a dictator.
No, he is a misguided fool. You put on the uniform, you give up the right to speak your mind in the manner this Marine did. He is on his way out the door, and rightfully so.

It would be interesting to see how many people that feel this way supported Ehren Watada when he refused to deploy to Iraq, on the grounds that it was an illegal war. That didn't work out so well for him

Ehren Watada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 03-24-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Is this sergeant a lawyer or a marine?
 
Old 03-24-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Is this sergeant a lawyer or a marine?

Yeah...a barracks lawyer! Or, as we in the Army prefer to phrase it...a s--thouse lawyer.
 
Old 03-24-2012, 08:27 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Then I hope they enjoy prison.

it is the duty of all soldiers, airmen, sailors and marines to refuse to obey what they think is an illegal order. if they so believe it, then following an illegal order and carrying it out does not relieve themselves of the criminal prosecutions that may occur because of that order.

one of the 1st classes i had when going through basic training taught that.
 
Old 03-24-2012, 08:55 PM
 
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Nonsense. American President's have been committing troops to battle without direct, specific Congressional approval for more than a century and, in many cases, without any "imminent danger" to our soil.

What was the imminent danger when the US Navy shelled the city of Tourane (Danang) before our Civil War? Or, when US forces participated in a war against Korean pirates or the Boxer Rebellion or any of a number of occupations in Nicaruagua, the Dominican Republic, Panama or Haiti or, for that matter, Hawaii?
Damn history and reason.. this is about how everything is the fault of that great Marxist dictator Obama.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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No, he is a misguided fool. You put on the uniform, you give up the right to speak your mind in the manner this Marine did. He is on his way out the door, and rightfully so.

It would be interesting to see how many people that feel this way supported Ehren Watada when he refused to deploy to Iraq, on the grounds that it was an illegal war. That didn't work out so well for him

Ehren Watada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I'd support his decision, and it turned out he was right, wasn't he? Now Bush and Rumsfeld dare not leave this country, for fear of being tried for war crimes. Hopefully the same fate awaits Obama for Libya.
 
Old 03-25-2012, 12:50 AM
 
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God, can't you just admit you were wrong?
Why bring God into this?
Likewise, can't you just see the truth of it? It's sooo obvious and true. The constitution would have simply said that the prez is CIC, but it

put conditions upon it! It clearly said that he is CIC under certain circumstances, and those are only when the military is called into actual service---and war had to be declared and only by Congress.

Yeah, presidents have been breaking law in this regard for a long, long time. That does not in any way change the correct interpretation of what the constitution says.
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