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Old 03-24-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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It has been posted---you won't read the links. I can't help you dude.
That doesn't fly. If you can't state, in your OWN words, what is being threatened, then you are admitting to not knowing what you're talking about. Which is what many of us have suspected from the very beginning.

Here, I'll help you, dude:
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Which part of the First Amendment is being taken away from you??
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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What a joke! If a lot of people had shown up, it would show the economy is bad b/c they don't have jobs. Since not many did show up, it proves the economy is bad and they're afraid to lose their jobs if they take a day off. An answer for every situation: "the economy is bad".

The econoimy IS bad. It doesn't matter how you look at it---IT'S BAD.

38 states, including mine, already have such laws on the books, and for the most part, Catholic hospitals are complying. It is a simplistic suggestion to say they can just quit their jobs and find another one, blah, blah. Look at the above sage assessment of the economy! In many towns, a Catholic hospital is the ONLY hospital.
Right, Obama should have listened to Bidden and not gone there with his mandate.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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That doesn't fly. If you can't state, in your OWN words, what is being threatened, then you are admitting to not knowing what you're talking about. Which is what many of us have suspected from the very beginning.

I have stated it---you refuse to understand it.

Here, I'll help you, dude: Which part of the First Amendment is being taken away from you??
Presicely, and part of freedom of religion is not being forced to violate ones conscience.
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:39 AM
 
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Presicely, and part of freedom of religion is not being forced to violate ones conscience.
In your own words, how are YOU being forced to violate YOUR conscience?
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Old 03-24-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Florida
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DON'T expect the MSM to cover the event. It goes against their agenda of towing the line for obama with his "war on women" garbage.

Just like they ignored the hundreds of thousands in the March for Life about a month ago.
Now you support the occupy movement after you put in so much effort to smear them??
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:04 AM
 
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Once the compromise was made, the issue should have been settled. The government isn't telling the Church they have to do anything.
If really believe that show pictures of the meeting and the hand shaking by both parties.

Hint, it DIDN'T happen.

Obama says there was a compromise but, he didn't discuss it with anyone from the church.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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Funny, I haven't seen any coverage of this story in the MSM. Did I miss something?

‘This is tyranny’: tens of thousands decry HHS mandate in 146 nationwide protests

"Another 'Occupy' movement has just rocked the United States of America - but with a very different message. Tens of thousands of men and women gathered in 146 protests on Friday, joining a grassroots effort that organizers say grew far beyond expectations. The rallies were held to protest the Obama administration mandate forcing religious universities, charities, and other groups to pay for abortifacient drugs and other birth control for students and employees.


But while the purpose of the Occupy protests last Fall was sometimes criticized as being somewhat hazy, the message of this event was clear. According to the Friday rallies, the HHS mandate is not a birth control issue, but a religious freedom issue, and a challenge to fight that won’t be ignored ..."




It's interesting what you said about the media. The turn-out here was about 100 people -- not bad considering it was on a workday. Probably more like 300 at least but I read a little tiny blip about it in the newspaper.

The same media which is there with cameras and special shots to include bystanders to make it seem that a pro-illegal protest of 12 participants was a much bigger deal than it was, or make it seem many more showed up at any liberal event than did, is definitely not reporting.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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Interesting. Why don't the "tens of thousands" of Catholics decry the Vatican for insisting on perpetuating the archaic no contraception mandate when the majority of Catholics use birth control anyway? It would seem to the prudent thing to do.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Interesting. Why don't the "tens of thousands" of Catholics decry the Vatican for insisting on perpetuating the archaic no contraception mandate when the majority of Catholics use birth control anyway? It would seem to the prudent thing to do.
While the Church preaches, there is no mandate. You will not be excommunicated for using birth control.

The government, on the other hand, did mandate.

Therein lies the difference...
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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While the Church preaches, there is no mandate. You will not be excommunicated for using birth control.

The government, on the other hand, did mandate.

Therein lies the difference...
Oh please. The reason for this fiasco is the no birth control mandate, hence not wanting to cover it.
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