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Great. If you feel this way, then take every cent of your disposal income and give it to others. That goes for all liberals who want "society." Eat macaroni and cheese, Top Ramen, and live in a cardboard box under the freeway overpass. When ALL of you do this, and donate your monies to "society," THEN you might have a leg to stand on. I pay my taxes and i give to charities.
You want "society services," but you want ME to pay for it. Pay for it yourself. I do not want, nor need, "society services." I take care of myself and family. I do not want you to pay one dime for me. That is a vision of "your society," not mine. I see NOTHING which benefits us all. I see a segment of your rainbow, fluffy cloud society, which does nothing but leech off the rest of us. And the more we give, the more they take. The more they take, the more they demand. I have used both the American "capitalistic" system and the European "socialistic" system and i know which one fails and which one is succesful. The American system fails millions of Citizens in so so so many ways yet there are those who adore it and want it to continue.... only because it serves them but the second these people lose their jobs and work related health care or they suddenly get denied cover or treatment.... they completely change their story about American health care.
Personal responsibility, family planning, and taking care of yourself is such a foreign concept to liberals.
Personal responsibilty has nothing to do with people who develop major illnesses..... yes we can all use the normal arguments that if people took better care of themselves or ate properly etc etc etc.... go tell that to a woman with breast cancer or a guy with prostate cancer or a child with asthma or someone with M.E. .... I developed type 1 Diabetes and it had nothing to do with my lifestyle but a virus yet you believe that it was some kind of personal choice...... Quote...."Personal responsibility, family planning, and taking care of yourself is such a foreign concept to liberals. "
Health care is NOT a luxury item and the domain of the wealthy. What other systems have you used so that you can give a educated argument for the present American Insurance based health system and any experience so you can argue against a UHC?
Personal responsibilty has nothing to do with people who develop major illnesses..... yes we can all use the normal arguments that if people took better care of themselves or ate properly etc etc etc.... go tell that to a woman with breast cancer or a guy with prostate cancer or a child with asthma or someone with M.E. .... I developed type 1 Diabetes and it had nothing to do with my lifestyle but a virus yet you believe that it was some kind of personal choice...... Quote...."Personal responsibility, family planning, and taking care of yourself is such a foreign concept to liberals. "
Health care is NOT a luxury item and the domain of the wealthy. What other systems have you used so that you can give a educated argument for the present American Insurance based health system and any experience so you can argue against a UHC?
Yep. I was born with a very rare genetic disorder that requires medication. Ive had an organ removed because of it and will eventually have to have at least one hip and one knee completely replaced, even with proper treatment, probably before the age of 35 judging by the last DEXA scan I had. I'm only 28 and have to keep it a complete secret because I have been fired by people who were afraid I would cause their health insurance premiums to go up. I've also had to turn down jobs because the only insurance they offered had lifetime caps. These are things normal people don't have to worry about.
I honestly don't think most healthy people really understand what it's like to be chronically ill. They think it's so easy to just go out and get treated. Even WITH insurance I went through 9 Doctors in 6 months because none of them wanted to deal with my disorder, or they had never heard of it.
And there we go again... the run around has begun.
No, it ain't any relevant anymore. Your premise has been established right down to the fact it has no legs to stand on.
What?
Is something wrong with you?
And no, I wasn't going to bother answering your question because it was irrelevant to my mention.
Now you can play stupid as you like, but that is the fact of the issue and I can post the progression of the comments if your memory is that short or befuddled, whichever you prefer?
Yep. I was born with a very rare genetic disorder that requires medication. Ive had an organ removed because of it and will eventually have to have at least one hip and one knee completely replaced, even with proper treatment, probably before the age of 35 judging by the last DEXA scan I had. I'm only 28 and have to keep it a complete secret because I have been fired by people who were afraid I would cause their health insurance premiums to go up. I've also had to turn down jobs because the only insurance they offered had lifetime caps. These are things normal people don't have to worry about.
I honestly don't think most healthy people really understand what it's like to be chronically ill. They think it's so easy to just go out and get treated. Even WITH insurance I went through 9 Doctors in 6 months because none of them wanted to deal with my disorder, or they had never heard of it.
The problem in the USA today with some people is ignorance, arrogance and this feeling of elitism.
Health care is not like buying a car or a home or any other item.
A basic concept in any society is that the benefit to the many overides the benefits to the few........... Greed overides this concept.
If the UHC's created in the rest of the Industrialised world were failing or were more expensive than the current American health system then there could be a argument for keeping the system as it is in the USA ... BUT the UHC's in other Countries are succesful and serve all of the community NOT just a percentage of it. The Insurance companies want PROFIT. They survive on PROFIT. They design their policies for PROFIT. They strive to give board members and CEO'S Huge PROFITS.............. Health care comes way down the list of priorities with Insurance companies,
UHC'S are in place for the preventive care and treatment of patients and the community...NOT PROFIT. There are a few different UHC's plans but they ALL are better than the for profit Insurance based health system in the USA.
Even Countries like Taiwan or Cuba or even Iraq have better health systems than the USA let alone the big industrialised Countries who now look at the USA as a example NOT to follow as far as health care is concerned.
Americans are NOT animals but are treated worse than a animal as far as health in the USA.
You know the actual problems with the current health system in the USA but there are still far too many here with the 'let them eat cake" attitude..........
Let me tell these morons something........ as far as health care in the USA for millions of citizens........... THERE IS NO CAKE!..... just suffering and bankruptcy............ Good plan azzholes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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