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Military health care is substandard by civilian standards. I can't tell you how many military folks were misdiagnosed or messed up by military doctors, and a trip to a civilian hospital treated them in their first visit. Unless you got lucky with a good military doctor, if they could not fix you with Motrin or a pain pill, then they washed their hands of you and sent you to physical the therapy, gave you discharge papers, or sent you to see a shrink.
Funny how people's experiences are so different. I can't think of one military person who has not been happy with their va treatment. I live in the DC area and have many family members and friends who say differently. However I'm sure their are those who are not. As far as shrinks are concerned, my wife who is very ill, this in fact has happened to her several times. This-- using for-profit HMO insurance. They simply did not want the expense of treating her illness and even proclaimed they never heard of her condition before. So, I guess they thought she was a nut and somehow conveyed this to her doctors who where under contract with said HMO. She is totally disabled from a "real" neurological condition.
Funny how people's experiences are so different. I can't think of one military person who has not been happy with their va treatment. I live in the DC area and have many family members and friends who say differently. However I'm sure their are those who are not. As far as shrinks are concerned, my wife who is very ill, this in fact has happened to her several times. This-- using for-profit HMO insurance. They simply did not want the expense of treating her illness and even proclaimed they never heard of her condition before. So, I guess they thought she was a nut and somehow conveyed this to her doctors who where under contract with said HMO. She is totally disabled from a "real" neurological condition.
I served for over twenty years, I'm speaking from first hand experience.
It's amazing how 80% of the Country is happy with their health care but virtually everyone i have asked about their health care either do not have any...(so they aren't even included in the people with health care polled) or they are extremely unhappy with the cost of their premiums or they have work based health cover but have to opt for the lowest cover as they cannot afford the higher better cover and they still pray that they don't get sick.I have a friend who is a staunch Republican who goes to Puerto Rico for his dental treatment and has told me that he gets his medications for diabetes from Canada............ great system here huh????????????
Premiums have been going up and up and up here for years and if the affordable health care act is overturned then millions here will see their Premiums go up and up and up and up and their cover go down and down and down................... IDIOTS!
Agreed. I read an article stating that most people are happy with their health care until they actually have to use it. It's only when you get sick that you find out what the exclusions are, etc.
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St. Jude
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I named another one also.
They are all over, one simply needs to remove the liberal blinders and see reality.
St. Jude's is a research hospital, primarily for cancer. It's not a place to go for ordinary problems. The one you named, Darkatt, gets patients on Medicaid before they give discounts. There are few hospitals that charge absolutely nothing.
I served for over twenty years, I'm speaking from first hand experience.
Well, If the VA is a gauge in what a UK kind of system in this country would be like I wouldn't wish it, if your experience was all too real. But that is not what Obama care is, is it? And we all know Euro plans are much different from each other, especially the UK which is a pure socialist system.
Cuz like Sebelius says, less children in the world equals lower health care for the living.
“The reduction in the number of pregnancies compensates for the cost of contraception,†Sebelius said
Good post!
Yes, under the Subversives in our White House the cliche "Survival of the Fittest" has taken on yet another meaning, and it's not good.
I have a nephew that is now in his early twenties that suffered the cancer "Burkitts Lymphoma," a Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, when he was eight years old. He found out a few years later that his primary tumor in his abdomen had been the size of a basketball or some large ball.
He was in intensive care with his kidneys shutdown and yet survived, but not without tremendous cost to his life. He then suffered some of the worst Grand Mal Seizures, and would throw up with them, becoming the kid at school known for this.
His life has truly been hell since surviving this cancer, and yep, the seizures were so common and so bad even for that worst type that sis finally agreed to having part of his brain removed! Worse....the doc told her later that more of his brain than intended had to be removed. She asked how much and he said it was best she didn't know!
Nephew is on disability and still has to take meds to....uh....prevent Grand Mal....sickening way to live, can't ever drive if he can't go six mos. without a seizure and he has not so far, but if I understand, they aren't Grand Mal except he had one a couple of mos. ago.
My point to this wordy post is that he, too is on disability and has been in and out of psyche hospitals, too. Now that BOcare has arrived it is questionable how his future will be, but I don't say that to sis. Must be horrible to be a parent with a child that has to have constant medical attention.
Sis is a professional but not a wealthy one. So far, her working fulltime, oh, she is widowed from more than ten years ago....so far insurance has worked fine...not freebies, but now nephew is an adult, and quite handicapped.
He will in no way be better off once BOcare is in full bloom...like a mushroom in bloom.
Yes, under the Subversives in our White House the cliche "Survival of the Fittest" has taken on yet another meaning, and it's not good.
I have a nephew that is now in his early twenties that suffered the cancer "Burkitts Lymphoma," a Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, when he was eight years old. He found out a few years later that his primary tumor in his abdomen had been the size of a basketball or some large ball.
He was in intensive care with his kidneys shutdown and yet survived, but not without tremendous cost to his life. He then suffered some of the worst Grand Mal Seizures, and would throw up with them, becoming the kid at school known for this.
His life has truly been hell since surviving this cancer, and yep, the seizures were so common and so bad even for that worst type that sis finally agreed to having part of his brain removed! Worse....the doc told her later that more of his brain than intended had to be removed. She asked how much and he said it was best she didn't know!
Nephew is on disability and still has to take meds to....uh....prevent Grand Mal....sickening way to live, can't ever drive if he can't go six mos. without a seizure and he has not so far, but if I understand, they aren't Grand Mal except he had one a couple of mos. ago.
My point to this wordy post is that he, too is on disability and has been in and out of psyche hospitals, too. Now that BOcare has arrived it is questionable how his future will be, but I don't say that to sis. Must be horrible to be a parent with a child that has to have constant medical attention.
Sis is a professional but not a wealthy one. So far, her working fulltime, oh, she is widowed from more than ten years ago....so far insurance has worked fine...not freebies, but now nephew is an adult, and quite handicapped.
He will in no way be better off once BOcare is in full bloom...like a mushroom in bloom.
Sorry to hear about your nephew. Why would his situation change with regards to insurance under Obamacare? Pre-existing condition can't be used against him. Private insurance is still in full force.
Watching the Republican fight for the private health companies should leave a bitter taste in every American's mouths. No wonder America is falling behind many Countries instead of being able to compete with them.......... News Flash America............ no one wants old bad ideas and systems and any good ideas and systems created here in the USA are being off shored and built abroad in China, India etc. giving them the edge and also control of OUR products.
A proper UHC here would get rid of unemployment overnight, improve the health of the whole nation and cost far less than the present system but hey lets's ALL follow the Republican plan and make America the home of the corrupt and the land of the wealthy.
Unfortunately there is no magic wand as far as health care is concerned but the present system in the USA is absolutely awful.
The present private insurance health for profit system in the USA is mega expensive and fails millions.
To say that a Govt. controls your health care in a Govt. funded health care system is not true.
To say that the present Insurance run health care system in the USA is controlled by the insurance companies and their CEO's is absolutely true.
UHC's have been created in all of the other industrialised nations and not one of them or their citizens have been put into bankruptcy because of a Govt. funded health system.... pity that cannot be said here with health care one of the top reasons for personal bankruptcy in the USA.
This is now 2012 yet the USA has one of the most expensive and least efficient health systems in the World.
Not sure why anyone here wants to pay more and more and more for a health system that rewards the wealthy, ignores the poor and blames the sick for using it as if disease is some kind of personal choice.
America is now long overdue a decent AMERICAN health system paid for and used by the people. A system that uses the old fashioned American concept of "we are all in this together" and old out of date beliefs like "love thy neighbour". A system to benefit everyone and NOT a system that just benefits the wealthy or those with a good work related health scheme........ our employment should NOT be a criteria for our health care........ years ago it was a perk with your job.... today it is a employer burden and reflects in everyones pay.
America now really has only TWO choices...............
(1) Keep trying to resuscitate a health system that is dead and cannot be revived
or
(2) Do what America was always admired for................. take the shot....... go forward and create the FINEST health system in the World.
I know that the lobbyists and the big insurance companies will line many politicians pockets to keep their tight grip on the American health system... after all it does allow them to make millions and millions but how much longer can America be held to ransom by corrupt greedy conglomerates...... it's ike watching abused children still defending their abusive parents.......... really awful.
Other Countries have recently adopted UHC's and America. i'm sure, could do even better than them but it seems that the pioneer spirit in America has been crushed into extinction.
Stop allowing fear based B/S scare you away from probably what could be the finest health system anywhere and let's all get our act together to create something special..... we pay for it so WE should own it NOT the Insurance companies.
What you're arguing for is Medicare for everyone. When LBJ and the Dems passed Medicare in 1965 they projected that it would cost $12 billion a year by 1990. In fact the real cost of Medicare in 1990 was $110 billion. The Dems underestimated the cost by almost a factor of 10. Medicare is projected to go broke in about 10 years. And that's what you want to do to health care in America?
Funny how people's experiences are so different. I can't think of one military person who has not been happy with their va treatment. I live in the DC area and have many family members and friends who say differently. However I'm sure their are those who are not. As far as shrinks are concerned, my wife who is very ill, this in fact has happened to her several times. This-- using for-profit HMO insurance. They simply did not want the expense of treating her illness and even proclaimed they never heard of her condition before. So, I guess they thought she was a nut and somehow conveyed this to her doctors who where under contract with said HMO. She is totally disabled from a "real" neurological condition.
I had a good VA doctor. She advised me that if I ever needed care for a serious health issue I should seek treatment outside of the VA.
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