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View Poll Results: Should social issues be regulated by government?
Yes 7 10.00%
No 63 90.00%
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-25-2012, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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hear, hear!

It's exactl;y why better-educated economic/fiscal conservatives have been deseting the republican party for years.

But, santoruma and a few other simpletons notwithstanding, we'll be arouind come november to close ranks against the real threat to individual liberty on the only issue that reaally counts --- obama and his gang's rape of our economy.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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All my native American friends vote democrat because they hate conservatives.

Or maybe because they love a nanny state.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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The meaning of conservatism is to keep things the same and keep tradition. Giving people freedoms goes against their "traditional" values. It's not just gay marriage. Think about other races and cultures that live here. Many conservatives are xenophobic too and would have no problem using the government to oppress the cultures or religions they deem to be a threat. Cconservatives have always been on the wrong side of history. All my native American friends vote democrat because they hate conservatives.
I'm just curious... Have you or any of your "native american friends" ever been on a reservation to see what democratic policies have done for american indians? Your wonderful handouts to the indian nation have taken a once proud people and basically destroyed them. The only "Native Americans" that support the democratic party are the illiterate that have wasted their lives living on the nanny state. Very few tribes have resisted the nanny state and those that have, have a much higher standard of living and haven't sold their pride for a handout....
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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I think your thread title should be about the topic and not something to start right wing flaming. Especially since your first sentence says its your beef with everyone.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I looked at the poll results and I'm thinking that there's a lot of hypocrites and liars on this forum. The forum itself tilts heavily right and I'm calling BS that most of them don't want things like gay marriage, abortion and other social issues driven by the government.

Here's a better poll:
The inspiration for the phrase you find so offensive was the Star-Spangled Banner, the Union cause in the Civil War, and oppostion to the Soviet Union.
Read about it here. Pretty interesting..

In God We Trust - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I looked at the poll results and I'm thinking that there's a lot of hypocrites and liars on this forum. The forum itself tilts heavily right and I'm calling BS that most of them don't want things like gay marriage, abortion and other social issues driven by the government.

Here's a better poll:
So you are saying that it is not possible to fiscally "tilt heavily right" and believe in personal freedom on a social level? I have news for you. This is the way the right is moving. 10 years ago, Santorum would have already locked up the nomination over Romney, but as things have changed, Santorum can only win in the South. Most modern republicans are equally nauseated with the religious right's attacks on personal freedom as they are with the democratic party's attacks on economic freedom. I wonder what the left is going to do when they no longer have these Santorum-type republicans to (rightly) mock?
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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I'm just curious... Have you or any of your "native american friends" ever been on a reservation to see what democratic policies have done for american indians? Your wonderful handouts to the indian nation have taken a once proud people and basically destroyed them. The only "Native Americans" that support the democratic party are the illiterate that have wasted their lives living on the nanny state. Very few tribes have resisted the nanny state and those that have, have a much higher standard of living and haven't sold their pride for a handout....
Your observation on the plight of Native peoples is a good one, but I also believe that there is something in the basic ethic and character of young Native men that makes them particulary insubordinate to the atmosphere of constant feigned self-effacement that characterizes too moch of the new, feminized, Very Politically Correct workplace.

Having worked in several such places over the past few years, I've noticed that a lot more of the work foce is familiar with the plot of the classic film "Cool Hand Luke" - (Shakin' it, boss!)

I have no idea how to address the growing amount of abuse and power-gaming that characterizes this problem. The regular protocols of traditional organized labor clearly have no answer. We need to formulate some set of fundamental employee rights, or at least, identify the worst abuses in the present atmosphere of micromanagement, but this is, admittedly, an extremely slippery slope toward further state interference.

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Old 03-25-2012, 05:42 PM
 
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Why does anyone have the right to tell someone they must give a portion of the fruits of their labor to someone else?

*AMEN* Remember that email that was so popular soon after BO won election? well, maybe you didn't get it but I got it multiple times over a couple of years.

It made the point beautifully!~

It was something about telling students that made very high grade averages that they were going to lose their academic standing because some of their grade points were being given to the lower-achieving among them.

It was genius~
Shame we can't actually threaten to DO that to students in our Marxist-leaning schools and have them actually fear...for maybe a few minutes, that we actually meant it.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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Or maybe because they love a nanny state.
I vote Democrat and I hate the nanny state. Until Republicans quit acting like bible thumping idiots about education, science, gays, Muslims, and women as well as Hispanics, I will keep voting Democrat. They preach "MORE FREEDOM" and they turn around and do the exact opposite. All the nanny countries I know have a huge military bloated budget (Nazi Germany anyone?) and big walls along the border with tough laws (Nazi Germany, North Korea) match the USA.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:52 PM
 
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I'm just curious... Have you or any of your "native american friends" ever been on a reservation to see what democratic policies have done for american indians? Your wonderful handouts to the indian nation have taken a once proud people and basically destroyed them. The only "Native Americans" that support the democratic party are the illiterate that have wasted their lives living on the nanny state. Very few tribes have resisted the nanny state and those that have, have a much higher standard of living and haven't sold their pride for a handout....
None of them have lived on wel fare. They are all good people and many care about the little people as opposed to Republicans who have greed on their minds 24/7. The accumulation of wealth isn't the most important thing to some people.
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